Liverpool Turnaround Terminal.

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Originally Posted by Chris Allman

Yes Kenneth all the above is well said by Ivan and very true. We always did a fair full days work too, not half of one working the welt. I think you should also remember that without seamen, including the officers too, you would not have had a job to go to.

Chris.

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Hello Chris,we all need each other in shipping, if we had lost the second World War.glad we never only for men like my dad,offices and crew gave us free speech and kept the country as it his today.by the way when you were in port you must have worked a welt. Let's put it a sleep for ever now. All the real dockers got sacked in Liverpool in 1995.they took scab labour on after that,bet all you ones that never had good word for them are so happy now,most have passed away two years on strike,there's tears in my eyes as I write this new 9-10 great men.Flag of convince must of cost thousand of seamen there jobs are you happy now.From Ken.

You started it my friend, I dont like attacks like that on people, they are unnecessary and as Ivan said, you don't judge a book by its cover. A lot of jobs have gone Kenneth, not just dockers jobs, seamen have lost thousands of jobs, crane drivers, shipyard workers the list is endless. I never had anything to do with working a welt, didnt need to and had no desire to, you see I had a sense of honesty and loyalty to my employer.

For your information I lost two close relatives in WW2 both torpedoed, one died trapped in the engine room and the other died in a lifeboat frozen to death in the Barent Sea, so I am well aware of the sacrifices made by very brave seamen.

A lot of people connected with the sea and ships have passed on too, so dont use deaths of dockers to try and invoke sympathy, some of my very close mates have died and I miss them, so dont tell me about deaths of mates. Why should I be happy about anyone's death, seems to me Kenneth you should be watching what you say to people, old age is no excuse for rudeness, quite the opposite.

I know we have this kind of dispute before and it is totally futile. someone reckons they are hard done by and blames the world. it doesnt get anywhere just ends up in a silly squable.
Every man is responsible for his own destiny, so where ever you end up, it is no ones fault but your own. If a man does not like doing what he is doing then try something else. Simple.
Just try to get along, we are in the twilight of our years and personally I need a good laugh.
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Brian , back on the Drambuie shandy.

Capt Kong says more laughs and no pin pricking but keep up the very excellent news and stories that all of us ex MN guys give to this site even if we dont agree with some of them keep this site a very instructive and a happy one

"A little bit of disagreement keeps the talk long.

Too much agreement kills a conversation".

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K.

remember it well when Idid aspell working as docker(DECK) if you touched for bad work-mate you were lucky if you got releived,he,d be pissed .ALF

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Originally Posted by Captain Kong

Brian , back on the Drambuie shandy.

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Brian mate, why are spoling perfectly good lemonade by putting Drambuie in it??

So I can drink it quiker, John.
Hic!

Are you the Charlie Hannah who joined MV Hazlemoor in 1968. Sailed to India Communist China etc?

That was my first trip as a Deck Apprentice.

Welcome to the site Chris :grouphug: Thanks for stopping by to introduce yourself a hopefully make contact with a past shipmate. It is to be hoped that you enjoy the content here which is as varied as the members.