A big hello from Vienna, Austria.

[Frederick Lacey]

Hi Doc and other searchers, this might help to find his papers..... Also to Nela..Welcome to the site.

His name is Malcolm C Jones, giving his age as 67years works out born 1947 or thereabouts.

Difficult to pinpoint birth date as there are several Malcolm Cs between 1946-1948. mothers maiden name would be of help.

Proof of name...

Marriage. Malcolm C Jones....Nela Soldatov. April. 1989. District. Poole. Vol. 23. Page.660.

Fred.

PS. Congratulations on your Silver Wedding this month....

[Keith at Tregenna]

Fred:

Working on similar, Tallow Hill Worcester as a place of birth may help.

K.

[DeepSea]

Two possible Seamen's Pouches. May or may not be him.

R793253 JONES M C 04/03/1947 DENBIGH BT 372/2548/137

R781270 JONES M C 30/11/1946 BOURNEMOUTH BT 372/2503/23

His full service if it still exists will be in the following:

1941 to 1972 Fifth Register of Merchant Seaman's Service

These records are held at The National Archives at Kew in classification BT 382. The Fifth Register of Seaman’s Service 1941 to 1972.

Records of individual Merchant Seamen's sea service details are held in alphabetical surname order. These details include the following information: Name of seaman, Date and place of birth, Discharge (Seaman’s) book number, Rank, Details of the ships on which he served. These include: Name of ship and official number, date of engagement (Joining ship), Date of discharge (Leaving ship), whether ship was a foreign going of home trade vessel, and records in some cases National Insurance contributions. Details shown in these records are similar to those contained in an individual seaman's discharge book.

The actual files are held in block by surname and would require a visit to Kew unless you are willing to pay for a researcher. His file should be held in the following file BT 382/2525 covering the surnames "Jones Keith to Jones Myrddin"

Once you have the relevant details you can check to find the ships Log Book and Crew Agreements for the time he was onboard each ship, detailing who he served with at that time.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Need a reply from Nela to narrow down more:

He was apparently born in the maternity hospital at the top of Tallow Hill ?

Possibly the parish of St Martin ? In the Worcestershire area ?

K.

[alf corbyn]

hello Nela and welcome to the site. I think perhaps you might be a little confused.
I think you are confusing Gravesend sea school with the merchant navy. the school is for boys of about 16 yrs. old to train for deck and catering. they then join the merchant navy. I was there for eight weeks in November 1947 to January 1948. I don't think anyone did more than ten weeks.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Thanks Alf, hoping Nela replies, that all important DOB is a must to help more. K

[Nela Soldatov Jones]

Thanks! I will keep that in mind. We have a bit of a hectic time now, as we are moving to Germany :-)
The old sailor is coming with me of course - I may not come back regularly, but I will.
Thanks guys!
Nela

[j.sabourn]

#9... Waddya mean Ivan, Cappy and me are always cicumspect. Just because we wont give up seat on publc transport to a 8 month pregnant woman doesnt mean we arent circumcised. JS

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi Nela.
Welcome to the site. If you Google in Gravesend sea school you will get up quite a few web sites which have former members writing in about their time there. Gravesend sea school was on the Thames river front, most of the lads were training to be stewards, time there about six weeks. who knows your husband might find some old mates on one of the sites.
Cheers Des

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[Ivan Cloherty]

#9... Waddya mean Ivan, Cappy and me are always cicumspect. Just because we wont give up seat on publc transport to a 8 month pregnant woman doesnt mean we arent circumcised. JS

Glad to see you haven't let me down then lads !!