I knew of the Lloyd brothers , and never heard a likable word for either of them , but I never sailed with them , Out of all the stories , I think any one would agree that they had very high standards , the reason I put the link in was to giove a better balance to the opinions there is an article here on G W Lloyd the other one known as " Logger " Lloyd
http://unioncastlestaffregister.co.u..._G_W_B_01.html . I think both these stories illustrate that despite the outward aggressiveness , that there was a man behind the facade . I know several catering guys who disliked the Lloyds intensely , but I believe they were old school , firm but firm , men , were not paid by the company for their popularity