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The Nurses should be given some form of recognition, trouble is it awakens the green eyed monster and the me to Brigade.
Scotland proposed giving the nurses £500 bonus for their efforts during the pabndemic, every Union boss jumped on the band wagon, claiming their members were special.
So where do you draw the line?
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For a simple starter they could stamp a veterans badge for the period that the pandemic runs. similar to the MN badge of veteran of HM armed forces . It would at least give them some feeling of sisterhood or brotherhood as the case may be. Whenever money enters the arena trouble always follows. Better conditions which today most take as more money will come with time and through normal processes. All the talk on this site about hard up people is hard to respond to, as there are safety nets in your welfare state. So to me is just agitation for agitations sake. And is just going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. JS
Why not just take a fiver off all the more than 200,000 seafarers who play a crucial role in keeping global trade flowing that is being labelled a "humanitarian crisis at sea"?
Nurse's do not want a badge, a clap from the doorstep, false promises.
They need to be able to get to work, ensure there own are fed and safe,
not be offered 1% by the the fool that spends more on takeaways,
doing up his digs at #10, alimony and giving loads of tax payers money to his
mates etc.
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I had started a similar post about nurses pay last week. Unusual for me I did ask it was not turned into a political slanging match. I have left that post alone now as a couple of political posts appeared.
Just my two pence worth. Currently NHS staff have free car parking on site, this temporary and for the duration of the Pandemic. I do not know what they have been paying normally per day in the past say £5.00 a day x 5days so £25 a week £100 a month. Why not just give them free parking. That could under Pay & Conditions surely. If staff do not drive to work so it becomes a free bus pass to and from work. But in 2016 was there not a review and a figure of 2.1% was agreed ? Nurses went on strike in Northern Ireland last year over pay and conditions. In breaking news looks as if the government may do a U turn. 1% is and insult, but perhaps also look at ways of stopping the differential in the pay gap between grades 1% pay rise to a consultant is a hell of a lot more than the 1% the Topaz gets. Maybe I have how pay scales are worked out for different grades? Having recently been in hospital I was able to observe how busy those working on the ward I was on appeared to be, they were busy enough but what life for them in ICU is like thankfully I did not need to see that. One thing I did notice was that most of the staff were of Asian backgrounds. If they decide to or are told to head back home as they do not meet the government pay scales the NHS could be in trouble.
I think some of what you say is valid Lewis, i can only speak from where i am , but under normal times the nurses pay to park at the hospital, and i had a discussion with one of them a couple of years ago, and like most parking in UK there is never enough, and here if they cannot find a staff parking position, they are fined if they park outside their zone, seems a bit rough to me. As far as Asian nurses in hospitals, they are fantastic, but the reason a lot are not entering the nursing trade in the UK is that the then gov introduced project 2000, which meant trainee nurses had to go to a university situation, with the debt that it involved, ie several thousand pounds in debt with tuition fees etc, and that started the Asian nurse recruitment. So as a result of that, we allow 3rd world countries to train their nurses, and then we nick them. My youngest son is a RNMH, mental issues, so he has come from the old system, and knows what effect Project 2000 had on the NHS, kt
#13. Well seafarers got a badge and proud to wear it. Do nurses want the rigmarole of the 1966 seaman’s strike. Taking a fiver off a seaman is ludicrous are you going to be the first to try it. ? JS
Nursing is a tough profession.
When I was at the Uni we had the nurses training course.
It was the toughest of all courses, the first year it was taken from hospitals and put into Uni some 240 signed up.
After the course ended three years later only 80 qualified.
To call them angels of mercy is an understatement, at some time in our lives we al need them, God bless them all.
Forgetting the Nurses claim for the moment. The uk used to appear to most outside of it as it was thought of, the streets of London being made of gold , any Tom Dick and Harry can apparently jump in a Zodiac and claim all sorts of benefits as claim as being being the next best thing to a beggar. Today he is hard up if he can’t afford a car, a mobile phone, smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol to his want. And the old taxpayer of the country is bound to keep him to that standard which many of their own fall behind of. B.K. Was quote correct when he said today many don’t know what poverty is. These same poverty ridden people also have to have a holiday every year as well, the South of France will do very nicely thank you. Coming back to medical staff, isn’t it about time that all medical facility’s to foreigners was payable up front. Other countries do it, and now the EU is out of the picture they too can pay for their own citizens. If others travelling abroad should carry insurance in any case to cover it. JS
If a citizen of the EU is on holiday in the UK and they have either a valid EHIC or the newer CHIC card they are entitled to free emergency health care in the UK.
If a UK citizen is in the EU on holiday and they have a valid EHIC or the newer CHIC card they also are entitled to emergency health care in the EU
Both cards are only for use in the UK or the EU.
At least that is my understanding.
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...replaces-ehic/
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Like that will occur, more chance the Government will pay, pay lip service for them, cash to best mates.
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