Ukraine

If this had been a western country that started this invasion, the left would be out on the streets surrounding the Embassy of which ever country was involved. Now Russia, the aggressor, not one peep from the left, McDonald, Corbyn and Abbot strangely quiet, I wonder why?
Vic

Those that think NATO is a big threat to Russia, my argument would be that we have in fact gone the other way, we ourselves have been running our armed forces down for many years, and most of the European countries have been doing the same, America, has stated it did not want get into others problems, and bailed out in certain areas, so Putin has seen us as weakened, and made his move. If the Ukraine manages to keep its freedom after this, just think of the cost of rebuilding alone. Now think how much extra war machine such as tanks , aircraft, defence systems etc that they will have to deter Russia, otherwise they will be back . We in the West are going to have to back them for some time yet.

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Originally Posted by j.sabourn

The present war in the Ukraine should not surprise any history buff. All during recorded history of the world , at least every century we have had probably what each side of every conflict call despots , in the 20 th. Century we had Hitler , Mussolini, General Franco , to name just 3 . Their look on life was vastly different to others but millions flew to their Standards and fought for what they believed right. The 21 st. Century we have Putin, and others in different countries who are going to carry on in the same vein to prove they are still with us in another body as it may seem. Right or wrong depends on who and what you are , whoever split that atom years ago in the name of progress has a lot to answer for. And the traitors who passed those secrets at the time to belligerent countries certainly deserved more than what they got, which was I believe the death penalty at the time. The Rosenbergs if my memory is correct. It’s a funny thing I can’t remember what I did last week, but can still remember the furore what those two caused in the world. JS

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The Russians have been ruled by despots for hundreds of years

On the news today, the Russian General of the 49th division has been killed in Ukraine, reported as the 7th most senior officers have now died, several from sniper fire. One of the top sniper in the Ukraine army is a sniper, so doing a lot of damage.

My post on snipers was meant to read, the top sniper in the Ukraine army is a women, quite a long article on the internet about her, kt

A head shot may mean a different target area to her then Keith , would be worth watching a Russian General dancing around holding his privates, whilst his other privates kept well clear of him. JS

So now the EU have agreed to buy American gas. ?? is this what this war is all about. The USA just loves a war as long it is far away from there shores
so they can sell arms , then when it is all over step in and run the oil & gas etc. an own half the country.
After the second war it took the UK 70 years to repay our debt to the USA.
This is why the USA and the NATO poodles pushed Putin into a war.

Thats the one Marian, apparently the snipers are doing a great job on the Russians, several senior officers have been shot. I have just been watching video of the Ukraine using ordinary drones to spot where the Russians are holding out, modern warfare indeed.

Post 335. Are you for real?
Putin massed over 100,00 troops on the Ukraine/Belarus Border, not NATO.
NATO responded.
Vic

Quite right Vic, and NATO did respond following the Invasion, probably not enough, lets hope they can increase the backing. I see that the advisors of Biden are trying to downplay his remarks on Putin replacement, but good on him, say it as it is.Also on the radio this morning they are saying that the Russia and Belarus are launching rockets from within their own country, so legitimate targets if we can supply them with something to hit back with.