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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Cloherty View Post
    If you have the academic ability you can get anything certificate these days and there was a logical reason for the time consuming system in the old days; the classroom could not teach you about mother nature, especially in her anger, you may theoretically know what a hurricane, typhoon, monsoon is, but until you've experienced them you will never appreciate their raw power, and the required 'seatime' twixt certificates, no matter what department you were in gave you that experience: managing a main engine and generators in a hurricane called for experience and courage, not something you could find on a drawing board, the same for the cook in the galley with all his hot pans and fiddles and still producing meals for all and sundry. For those of us on deck side, we could name all the parts of a derrick in the classroom, but that does not prepare you for a runaway derrick swinging its way across the deck with its trailing guys and preventers, and the taughtness of a backspring feeding round the bitts, that's why we had 'seatime' because those in charge knew that the classroom was no substitute for hands on, and you needed time at sea to appreciate the requirements of your chosen trade and hone your skills. Yes they have very good/excellent simulators these days, but until you've got a few thousand tonnes of steel beneath your feet you realise that no matter how good the simulator, it never gave you that buttock clenching moment when the law of physics takes control and you cannot switch off and start again.
    so true Ivan, I recall my first tropical revolvimg storm,3 days of it in the Mozambique channel, every time the foredeck was buried up to midships in green water you could feel the ship straining to come back up and then the next time going down and the turbines over speeding, the thought goes through your mind "this basteward isnt going to come back up one of these times" G force so strong that when heaving up it was impossible to climb the ER ladders. Rabbits nose doesnt cut it

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    Quote Originally Posted by j.sabourn View Post
    A steering ticket as far as I recollect had no real authority as such , it only said that the bearer of such had completed 10 hours of steering the ship. The only official thing on it was the ships stamp and someone’s signature. I may not be right as I never had one , but for anyone above deck boy it would be automatically assumed everyone had put in the hours. Can never recollect any remarks out of 10 for capability’s. Which would be 5 watches say 3 days without farmers . Not much on a 6 week passage. Steering today can be of various types , some ships have no rudders so have to steer the same as an outboard engine , usually two outboard engines , and the only time in hand is when manouvering the ship which is a totally different aspect of than the old wheel and telemotor system. Most modern ships of today you won’t see a ships wheel , in fact it may look on the bridge more like the star ship Enterprise. JS
    Didn't you need to have a steering ticket to take EDH?

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    Am I correct in thinking that you needed a Steering certificate and 12 months sea time before you took EDH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Bis View Post
    Am I correct in thinking that you needed a Steering certificate and 12 months sea time before you took EDH?
    Read my last post it tells all i hope !
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    Yes George as Brian said previpusly it was a requirement paper wise. JS
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    #21... Seatime.. Hence such expressions. As I was in Baghdad when you were in Dads bag.. or the old fireman I’ve spent more time adrift on a piece of oily waste than you’ll ever see.JS
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    When i went to sea in 1957 as deck boy, it was 9 months sea time for JOS, another 9 months to SOS, and a further 9 months to take EDH, thats if my memory is anywhere near correct, kt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Tindell View Post
    When i went to sea in 1957 as deck boy, it was 9 months sea time for JOS, another 9 months to SOS, and a further 9 months to take EDH, thats if my memory is anywhere near correct, kt
    Sounds about right Keith, but after finishing your time as SOS and were not able to go for EDH, you could be signed on as DHU, which gave you a pay grade between SOS and EDH, but nearer to the EDH's rate of pay, which some EDHs did not like, but if you were on a long trip as some of us were, then it would have been very unfair to keep an SOS on his SOS pay rate, if he only required a further 3 months seatime and the trip turned into a 12 -24 monther. Some of us anticipated a 6 week trip and came home 22 months later...........that's life, or it was

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    It was around 1965 or 66. I do not remember what ship but we were definitely going to New Zealand. A notice went up inviting any crew member if they would like to earn their steering ticket in their own time. I felt that this would be a very interesting experience and was very tempted to apply. I did not apply and I often wondered over the years if it was really open to "any crew member".

    I was a fireman, but I would have loved to done that time on the bridge, just for the experience. I had plenty of spare time.

    Frank.

    P.S. I wish everyone a "Happy and healthy Christmas' and hopefully a far better 2021.

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