Shipping problems

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Originally Posted by j.sabourn

#63. I think Ivan the only change in business dealings was the so called equalisation of all parties by calling people by their first names . JS

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In formal business dealings, correspondence, business meetings it was always best to refer to people by their title whether it be plain Mr or Your Excellency, etc unless invited to do so by the respective parties, and this normally in private meetings. Titles always used in the presence of third parties whether they be your own or the other parties employees and that was respect and etiquette. After hours you can be Fred, Jim, John, Julio etc depending upon the development of the business and personal relationship. Never saw the need for Christian (or first name) names shipboard, the Chief liked being called Chief, the Bosun liked being called Bosun and this went on in cabins and even the ship's bar (if they had one). Just my experience and views.

Ivan you must have left the sea earlier than I thought. Especially on small vessels , as was always first.names from the middle 70s. Some may have insisted on their title , but office staff set the trend by calling everyone Tom Dick and Harry. Made no difference to me as always called people by their Christian name , and even got that wrong at times but was still easier to remember than surnames. Probably to keep up the facade on large ships the old pomp.and ceremony goes on ,but in the offshore and I I would have thought in the coasting trade it would have mostly disappeared by now. yourprobably right in general. My letter of congratulations from the people before I left their employ was to Captain John and crew. If we had a Bosun no doubt he would still have been called bosun , but on most ships later was rarely carried we had what is called a leading hand and can never imagine calling him that . Those uncomfortable with used to call the master skip and the chief engineer , chief , but otherwise first names were mostly accepted as the norm. It came in at the same time time as communal messing where the cafeteria style eating and self service came into being. JS.

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Originally Posted by vic mcclymont

Its ironic Boris gets the fishing rights back.
Wee Burney hopes to get independence and give the fishing rights back to the EU.
Vic

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hi vic
absolutely correct, but what infuriates me are the harbingers of doom and failure, whom want only to pass on their feelings of abstract negativity, to all whom are willing to listen, i myself once i spot such a person, will just skip to the next good piece of news,
tom

#16 Have got into my Time Machine and mentioned this post again on the 20 May 2024 . How’s that for magic. JS.

You sound like the Wizard of Oz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well the first thing I would do John is wave my magic wand and withdraw our foreign secretary’s statement and take out her Australian veto about Israel and make it with one absentation and that would be me. And make it plain that she speaks for herself and her cronies only. JS.