Shipping problems

Who can remember carrying potatoes from Casablanca and Egypt, all the meat we wanted from South America and cheap too. South African fruit and the amount of grain we carried back to the U.K from the U.S.A. was phenomenal. There are moves afoot to restore these trades and develop agriculture and dairy products in The North African Mediterranean Coast. As for the fishing and it's export to France and the rest of Europe change that to Japan and South Korea, they'll take all we can export to them and more. The French, Belgian's etc have very short memories of the enormous support we gave them during and after the 2nd W.W. which has allowed them to be in the position they are now in. We have got absolutely nothing to fear so let's all look forward to an unshackled U.K.

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Originally Posted by Colin Wood

If UK needs cheap fresh food, just come to the old Commonwealth countries, who supplied UK before the EU, and during the war. A lot of their food industries were severely hurt by UK leaving the Commonwealth, but have rebounded and produce more and greener products than EU ever will.
We have the goods, after 1 Jan you can come and buy.

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hi colin
not only are we going to be trading with you after xmass, but there is also going to be massive new investment in shipping and trade between yours and our country,
watch this space
tom

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Originally Posted by j.sabourn

Once again John it will depend on the availability of the worlds merchant fleets who Can if politically minded hold a country to ransom. The extreme short sightedness of previous governments is beyond redemption, all keen to build weapons of mass destruction costing and putting whole countries into insolvency , where any war can be won by just withholding trade and the means of transportation , and people look up to these people for their supposedly extra intelligence , they are muffins . JS.

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hi john sabourn
your right about the no investment in our shipping industry and the problems that have now began to surface because of it.
but its this goverments plans after the 1st january 2021, to rectify the shipping and transport problems, and will be changing tax laws to influence shipping companies to strike up the red duster once again, one such change will be to identify oil rigs as being ships, for tax reasons, ( something they couldnt do under the frau merkel regime.
tom

Fingers crossed on promises:

Reminder: That Britain handed the license to monitor its waters to a French firm last year.

“It is ludicrous at a time when we’re supposed to be taking back control of our fisheries that we’re handing over the policing of them to a company part-owned by the French government."

Military vessels patrolling UK waters after Brexit may have to rely on data from a French firm that was handed the license to monitor them back in October last year.

Defra.

According to reports in The Times last year, a Defra tender handed the contract to track UK and foreign-licensed boats in British waters to French firm Collecte Localisation Satellites (CLS) after previously being held by British firm, Globavista.

CLS is part-owned by the Centre National d’Etudes Spatiales, the French government space agency, and the Institut Français de Recherche pour l’Exploitation de la Mer, the oceanographic institution.

Ironic but true, touch wood it will all come out in the wash ?

K.

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#66... The problems were there for all to see years ago rhat the uk was on a path of self destruction. I am a nationalist at heart and anyone who served under a flag of their country will also be mostly the same way inclined. For a country to stand back and watch the government of the day go out and self destruct itself and the nation by breaking up that symbol. Which stood for many years was heresay. The merchant fleet of my early years stood for something , even for the minor parts like having to have British subjects manning their vessels. The only country I admire in this sphere is the Americans who have at least retained a semblance of that maritime law on the manning of their vessels. The Uk the same as Australia seems to follow to a certain extent , seems to have had this death wish instead of using their noggins. I very much doubt if they will ever make up the huge shortfall caused by their own deficient governments of the past. They should be allowed 1 mistake and then out. Not like the numerous ones they continue to make. JS

Nothing he spouts out ever works but, fingers crossed:

Boris Johnson has made ambitious plans to turn London into a shipping hub to rival Singapore after Brexit.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pore-West.html

#63. I think Ivan the only change in business dealings was the so called equalisation of all parties by calling people by their first names . This was very apparent in shipping where some of the old time masters used to cringe when had to do. They thought that was it duty done, it wasn’t it goes a long way further than that , for anyone in a good business today it is their duty of care to look after the welfare of their workers, and some of the fly by nights British believe it or not , have been in the past way below the pass mark. I am usually not for nationalising any business , but when it comes to shipping it should not be left in the hands of the big profiteers. JS.
As regards one statement somewhere about rigs being brought into the realms of shipping, someone obviously is having someone on . A rig is a vessel to all intents and purposes when underway and here in Australia has to have a marine manned crew on board when not at a moored position . So don’t be taken in by people who haven’t a clue what they are talking about be they politician or media. Why do you think a lot of rigs are built with propellers or thrusters on their legs , These are usually dismantalled when in their area of operation purely to avoid paying for Engineering crew. When moving a rig there are no engineers as such, but by Australian law have to carry an appropriate deck crew. Even if a blind eye was turned to this , the insurers certainly wouldn’t . The only way around this would be to tow the rig as an unmanned hulk and display the appropriate signals. Which would probably cost more insurance wise than the cheaper option of a correctly manned vessel. JS

Like most other industries the politics take first place.

Recall the drought of 1976 in UK. Shortage of potatoes so imported from all over.
One potato farmer close to the river produced a crop of over the limit per acre under EU regulations.
Was fined for this.

Without political interference the world would run far better, but the competition between those at the top will not allow.

I was looking as Elon Musk the other day, he is only interested in what he can sell in the way of electric vehicle, attempting to build factories in China and Germany.
He is one of the guys at the top with money, lots of money so what he says no doubt influences many world leaders.
He is not the only one but we are totally controlled by those who seek only power.

Hope Boris keeps his promises.

The Prime Minister was put on the spot during a Downing St press conference after being asked what festive gift he’d give to the First Minister.

Mr Johnson initially appeared stumped by the question and muttered off-camera “let me try and think of a present for Nicola”.

He then responded: “There’s all sorts of things that would arise naturally from the UK getting a new relationship with our friends in the European Union.

“One thing that may be of interest to the people of Scotland is they will become the proud possessers of hundreds of thousands of tonnes of fish, shellfish, crustaceans.

Let see if this gets further than the Boris bridge / tunnel etc.

K.

Its ironic Boris gets the fishing rights back.
Wee Burney hopes to get independence and give the fishing rights back to the EU.
Vic