Seaforth Docks.

[Jim Brady]

Louis the ODVA is still going the Coronation is a supermarket I think maybe a Tesco.Was the pub you are thinking of on the dock road the Dominion.Did you ever watch the TV series The Boys From The Blackstuff,the pub in that was the Green Man that is due for demolition for the land to build flats.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Louis the fly]

Another one bites the dust , the Corrie used to be a popular pub always packed out. Not the Dominion Jim, the name may come back to me. The manager was an unofficial money lender, many of the regulars ran up tabs , on payday they would pay him back then begin all over again. There were always illegal lock ins , the cops would come knocking for a couple of pints on the house. Liverpool police must have been the highest paid in the country , one told me there was an unwritten instruction , if they were in a car chase and the car they were chasing entered Liverpool 8 they had to stop and turn around , fear of race riots.

Boys from the black stuff was one of the best series ever made for TV . Give us a job , I can do that , come on give us a job.

[Captain Kong]

Pop down the local - Pubs - ing .... Welcomes You .....In A City Living

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Probably the most comprehensive past and present pubs of Liverpool page in the world! ..... A strange name considering its location at the bottom of Strand Rd makes it a .... The Dockers Hook on the corner of the Dock Rd and Millers Bridge.

Every ale house is on this site HUNDREDS of Photos , from the Caradoc, Pen and Wig, and The GREEN MAN where Shakehands throws the Whistler through the window.
and so on. Hundreds of them,
Many memories in those photos and a lot of pay offs of mine spent in them.

The best one I have seen..
Cheers
Brian.

[Jim Brady]

Just had a great day in town I was in the Hole In The Wall delighted that a guy who I had sailed with Gerry Devine on the Empress boats got up to gave a number now 82 years of age and still good,made my day.He won the Bulova gold watch in Montreal three times.A bunch of lads from the Valleys celebrating one of their mates 50th birthday,besides the music they were watching the rugby (no sound)could not get over everything about Liverpool one guy said he is coming back later this year for a holiday with his wife and kids.I was also with Les McAteer a mate of Gerry's he is from the well known McAteer boxing family.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_McAteer
Brian is that link coming up??
Regards.
Jim.b.
By the way Brian the Dockers Hook was known as Bloods,the correct name if I remember was the Millers Castle.

[Louis the fly]

What is your opinion Jim do you prefer Liverpool as it is now or as it was ?

[Jim Brady]

Hi Louis a bit of a hard one to answer this,you can't treat like with like.So OK Liverpool present day is a vibrant city with lots of new buildings and a lot cleaner than days gone by.Now a building becomes empty and it is not boarded up it is snaffled up and made into a new hotel.Everything here seems to be hotels and eating establishments I suppose the main employment is catering and shop assistants,having said that I don't know what go's on in the offices that appear tobe busy.So yes Liverpool with it's Albert Dock,Maritime Musuem,Liverpool Museum and new Pier Head layout is quite attractive.
But what we had before was seven miles of docks full of ships and cargos from all over the world factories such as Tate&Lyle,Bibby's,Harland and Wolff and many little workshops along the dock road all involved in the maritime business.Ships and factories all pumping out black smoke if you wore a white shirt in the morning you had to change it to go out at night because the collar was black.When you think of Liverpool in those days you think of it in Black & White so I suppose it was a dirty scruffy place,that was the downside.In it's favour there was work for everyone,the dockers that loaded and unloaded the ships,the tug companies,Alexander Towing.Reas,Alfred Lamey,Furness Withy and Cox's and then of coarse the ship repair men,riggers and shore gangs ships chandlers and lots more,not forgetting all the timber yards which employed hundreds.Then of course you had the dock and dock road canteens all employing many women and the pubs of course where many on here have had a good pint or two.So that is just the docks that I have dealt with and imagine how many people were employed in connection with that.
Away from the docks there was lots of places for the girls to work,Johnsons The Cleaners,Vernons and Littlewoods Pools,B.A. Tobaco,Ogdens and many more and all these places needed office staff not forgetting the shipping companies.All the young ones working and off to the dances Friday and Saturday night where you had to be in the dance by 9.45 and only soft drinks and coffee served.
So there you are do you prefer a nice clean place with not much work about or a place of smoke and grime with lots of employment and character which can never be brought back,I know which I prefer.
Regards.
Jim.b.

[Louis the fly]

I enjoyed reading that interesting reply. Everything comes with a price tag , modernization for jobs and lost skills but that is the way it has always been.

[Keith Tindell]

Good round up there Jim, not just Liverpool, but pretty much every major port in UK, now all gone. What I always ask myself when I cross in to Southampton or Portsmouth is what do all these people I see, drinking and eating in the middle of the day do for a living ? . Kt

[happy daze john in oz]

JIm, what you say is occuring in Liverpool is I think occuring in many major cities across the globe.
Here in Melbourne old building pulled down, new appartments go up and th enumber of eating houses quadruples by the day.
Eating houses of any kind, restaurant, take away etc grow daily.
The town I live in has a population of about 35,000 and there are now over 200 eating places, either eat in or take away.
Soon as a shop is empty in goes another eating house, and they all appear to be going well.

[Jim Brady]

John lucky enough here they are not pulling the old buildings down they convert them into flats or hotels so the character of the area is retained.
Regards.
Jim.B.