Rotten society of today

[happy daze john in oz]

Long serving prisoners often come out with more skills of the wrong kind than they went in with.

Many of the offenders now are not criminals as we know them. Often they are so drugged, particularly with Ice, that they have no idea of what they are doing.

They should be taken out of society and placed in a special prison, not like the ones we know but one where they will be treated for their addiction and never released until cured.
No cure, no release.

[Captain Kong]

Hi Vernon
I went to Polsmoor Prison several times when flying with Court.
We used to go most Fridays and take a few prisoners to Robbin Island.

this is what I wrote in my story of when I was with the Helicopters in Cape Town. it certainly is the toughest or worst prison anywhere...........
in 1976
"Every Friday we went to the Pollsmoor Maximum Security Prison in Tokai, a suburb of Cape Town, one of the toughest prisons in the world. Mandella was imprisoned there before transferring to Robben Island.
We would land in a very secure area and then the guards, armed with automatic weapons would march out a few , maybe a dozen prisoners, feet and arms shackled, they would shuffle to the Helicopter and two at a time would board craft. The guards would shackle their legs and arms to the seat frames, then the next two, until they were all chained up.
With four armed guards on board we would then take off and fly to Robben Island, across Table Bay. a bit like the film, `CON AIR`.
On landing at Robben Island near to the main gate, the guards would unshackle the Cons two at a time from their seats and escort them off the Chopper, They were then taken over by the armed prison guards and escorted two at a time through the gate. Once they had all been taken away we would then load any prisoner who was being transferred back to Pollsmoor, usually if they were due to be released. It was top security at all times. Sometimes we had a sling underneath with stores etc for the Island. One time I was unloading stores with the Winch Man,
The Cons were not allowed near the chopper, we passed them out to them, he told me, “That one over there is Mandella”, I said “Who is Mandella,?”, I had never heard of him at that time. “He is a notorious terrorist, a bad bastard”. Oh.
Many of the ANC terrorists, , were incarcerated on there for many years.
In 2001, I went back to Robben Island and sat in Mandella`s cell and had my photo taken. It was a museum and tourist destination then with ex Cons as the tour guides.".........

I spoke to one of the Prison Guards, he was telling me about the conditions in Pollsmoor, He said there were parts of the prison where no guards ever went as it was too dangerous, They always walked about in fours. he said if the Prisoners wanted a game of football they would get another prisoner, cut his head off and use that as a ball.
Not the kind of place I would like to be in.
Cheers
Brian

[robpage]

brings a new meaning to head , the ball

[vic mcclymont]

Aye he lost his heid.
Vic

[happy daze john in oz]

Today we heard something here in Melbourne that maybe should have been in the Monty Python show.

Over the past five years the local police have falsified over 260,000 breath tests.

No one has been convicted, no one lost their license or ever been charged.

Why not?


Well it appears the police them selves have been blowing in the bag, or by holding a finger over the straw hole activating the device.

Why you may well ask?


The problem lies with the chief commissioner who set targets for the number of motorist to be breathalized.
The more done the greater the gov funding for the force.


Problem here no is that the figures for the percentage of actual drink driving offences is way off the mark.

Making it look as if we are better than we really are.

[Doc Vernon]

Hello Capt
Yes I have been to Polsmoor a while back as well (No not as a Con LOL) went with about I think were 8 or so of us,it was organised with the then South African Government with a Special Visit Permit/
It certainly is a place that opens ones Eyes and I think no one in their right mind after serving time there would want to repeat that,but sadly there are and always will be!

As you say that place is one I would never ever by the Grace of God go to.it is still so bad there ,as I hear from my contacts back home/

Robben Island as well I have visited twice,but only after it had become a tourist attraction,very eeire there but full of interest as well. It is hard to imagine the length of time spent in there by so many of the Cons,how some survived is amazing! Mandela was one such Man,he had so much inner strength and although in his early Years was a bad bugger he certainly showed the World what one can do!
Thanks
Cheers

[vic mcclymont]

Robben Island, some of the best Crayfish I have ever tasted comes from the waters round that island.
Vic

[happy daze john in oz]

Yes Vernon he may have been a god man later, but not in the early days.
Still recall the shooting I saw care of one of his thugs, right in the middle of Cape Town.

[Doc Vernon]

Alas ! yes John but like so many others too Worldwide mate!
At least he was one who mended his ways with time,not like some that still carry on and on,Crime Bosses etc!