Scottish Order of Templars.

[Bill Morrison]

Hi Fouro. Thanks for this post. It has brought back something I had long forgotten. As a youngster I was a Boy Scout in Aberdeen. The Aberdeen Boy Scout Association owned a campsite a few miles outside the City called Templar's Park which was purchased in 1935. I remember there was supposed to be a connection with the Knights Templars. I am very into local history etc. and a book I have by a local historian explains the connection in chapter of one of his publications. The Knights Templers would seem to have been established in this area around the 11th/12th century. It is a very interesting read and one of knights John Fleming drew up a map of the area in about 1415! So thanks again for bring this back to mind.
Bill.

[j.sabourn]

34...Just out of interest Bill, did you know George Henderson from Aberdeen he was one of the mates in Seaforth an ex fishing Skipper. Got a leg smashed up on the Jarl when working one of the Sedco rigs 101miles west of Fenit in the North Atlantic. Telling me one time he did 4 years national service instead of 2, instead of putting him in the navy they put him in the Black watch, couldn't take the dscipiline and used to throw his rifle at the drill sergeant. So spent about another couple of years in the glass house. Apparently that time was not counted as national service time. Took me to one of the Aberdeen lodges, first time I visited a Scottish lodge, must have been that open night that was the start of my interest. Preceptory is not an order that one can just join, as apart from the Craft lodge which outsiders think that is only freemasonry as they know it. You also have to be a member of the Royal Arch the next Order on the Masonic cycle. There are numruous other Orders and would take more than lifetime to attempt them all. Preceptory covers the Knights of the Temple and also Grand Priory , the Knights of Malta Rhodes and Palestine, this is not divulging what most consider secrets as can be found as shown by fouro on the internet. Cheers JWS

[Bill Morrison]

34...Just out of interest Bill. Cheers JWS

Hi John. I can't recall a George Henderson in my time with Seaforth, there was Stewart Robertson and Fred Russell who passed away a few months ago both were ex fishing Skippers.
My father and grandfather were both members of Masonic Lodges but not for me.
On the subject of the Knights Templars at Maryculter. There is a legendary tale the site is haunted by the Green Ghost. It is said to be that of a Saracen woman who had nursed a wounded knight in the Holy Land and followed him to the Maryculter Preceptory. I can't remember exactly how it went but the knight was accused of breaking his vow of celibacy and put to death and the woman committed suicide putting a curse on the Order.
While looking through the internet on this subject I found this on a BBC post. The comments added to it make interesting reading. Bill

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7050713.stm

[Lewis McColl]

A green ghost and a Saracen she had to have been sea sick, sorry

[Fouro]

Hello Bill,
Most probably you know it was the Chief Scout, Lord Baden Powell who officially opened Templar's Park in 1936.
Here is some interesting information which refers to some of the time he spent in the army.
Colonel Robert Baden-Powell, 5th Dragoon Guards

Fouro.

[Fouro]

Templars were well disciplined, they observed unfailing obedience to the master.
This principle of obedience, important to an army in any era, made the Templars "lethal". They didn't hesitate to second guess their orders.They acted swiftly and with certainty to do as they had been commanded.
I don't think people like National Serviceman Henderson who couldn't handle being disciplined would have been tolerated by the Templars.


Fouro.

[Keith at Tregenna]

The Knights Templar was a large organization of devout Christians with a mission: to protect European travelers visiting sites in the Holy Land while also carrying out brave military operations. A wealthy, powerful and mysterious medieval order that has fascinated historians and the public for centuries, tales of the Knights Templar, their financial acumen, their military prowess and their work on behalf of Christianity still circulate throughout modern culture.

The Knights Templar - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

[j.sabourn]

#39. George wasn't a Templar he was a mason only. The Templars are considered the military wing of freemasonry. If had kept up the old vows of celibacy wouldn't have caught me as a member. JWS.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Missed the George bit, not the saint, different kettle of fish. K.

[j.sabourn]

George was an old shipmate Keith, and certainly not a Saint. Talking of saints read an article in last weeks paper where the Pope has just made 40 or more such as. Didn't reconized any names off here. JWS.