He Who dares Wins, :thumbsup: I hope we get more votes than the other lot, cheers JCQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain Kong
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He Who dares Wins, :thumbsup: I hope we get more votes than the other lot, cheers JCQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain Kong
Two online petitions one against Donald Trump’s state visit to Britain and in favour are to be debated in parliament. The petition against Donald Trump received 1.7 million votes, while the one in favour of the visit received 123,000 votes. If a petition receives over a 100,000 votes then the issues raised are debated in parliament.
All in all: “It would have been far wiser to wait to see what sort of president he would turn out to be before advising the Queen to invite him. Now the Queen is put in a very difficult position.”
K.
#112, Keith, Now is not the time for faffing about. We need to secure trade deals. The European Parliament will learn the hard way, we are a force to be reckoned with.
O ye of little faith. The Queen is a consummate professional. Would take more than Donald to ruffle her feathers. President Trump's mother was a Royalist, he'll be as good as gold.:)
the way this crowd works by the time the justice the meetings the votes on weather to let him in he could be on his second term in office? its us that now are a day late and a dollar short? jp
Her Majesty will decide. She was advised. It is her invitation and she will rule.
As you say now is not the time for faffing about with petitions,
they will be read. But is her that has been put in the difficult situation.
Trump also would not be in her good books after previous statements but, as you say she a consummate professional.
K.
Dez Taff, G'day!
I have no problem with our borders being better protected, just with the methods chosen.
The wall: expected cost to be over $2 billion. I would scrap that, buy more drones, employ more border patrol officers to back up the findings of the extra drones, plus the staff to operate same. If the Mexican drug-lord El Chapo could tunnel out of a maximum security Mexican prison from his cell toilet it should not be much of a stretch to tunnel somewhere under a two thousand mile long wall. Bloody wall would look like it was built on Swiss cheese before the foundation caves in.
The ban: Yes if it is of a temporary nature while stronger vetting is installed, but permanent visa holders or US citizens born in another country, banned from reentry No. Yes if it also include Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, the nationalities of those 9-11 bombers, plus Pakistan from where the wife who was an active participant with her husband (a home grown terrorist) in the San Bernardino shooting. and just because, Turkey, Afghanistan, Sudan, and Chechnya, home of the Boston Marathon terrorists.
I once was a green card holder, I've been a naturalized US citizen for fifty years. Let's suppose I go to England next year to visit my brother and nieces and nephew and families.
The mob voting to exclude him from entry to the UK. wins and while I'm over there, President Trump, by executive order adds the UK to the list of undesirables. That would mean I'm stuck over in "Jolly" at my brothers along with his four yappy, smelly Yorkshire terriers, instead of coming back and sitting on my dock tossing pieces of chicken to the alligators and sipping on a bourbon in South Carolina where nothing could be finer. Here's hoping Marion, Captain Kong, Ivan and company win and let him come in to the UK.
As for Obama not doing to much to terrorists:
Obama's hit list, Just the majors in Al-Qaeda.
Osma Bin Laden, Anwa Awlaki, Mohammad Habib Boussadoun al Tunis, Muhhammad Atef, Abu Hamid Rabia, Midhat Mursi, Abu Laith al-Libi,
Mohammad Hasa Khalil al-Hakim, Sayeed al Masri, Abu ayyab al-Masri, Rashid Rauf....
Silly me, I almost forgot Jihad John, the British citizen and English voice of Isis cruelty...Obama got him too.
Just to head off a little incoming. Special forces, and drone type operations and all major assassination or capture, even if using bombers must be directly and specifically approved and given the go or no by the President, he is the Commander-in-Chief of all US Forces.
#115, Stop playing silly beggars, don't rearrange my words again.
Again thank you Rodney,
The petitions mentioned both reach 100,000, then they are read.
Someone would have to go back to the Queen if things went Awry.
Trumps visit is on lest HRH rules different.
Keith.
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Originally Posted by gray_marian
Sorry thought that was what you meant, it was a bit unclear.
K.
Johno in Oz, re #84
There are certain things the president can do without congressional approval executive order is one. This is permitted by the Constitution, it's a bit of a stretch, still the first president to figure it out and use it was George Washington.
Article 11, section 1 "The executive power shall be invested in a president of the U.S.A.."
Article 11, section 3 "The president shall take care that the law be faithfully executed."
An executive (presidential) order can be thrown out. once it has risen through the judicial system, by the Supreme Court if it is judged unconstitutional. In extreme cases the congress can pass a law that the order is unconstitutional and cancel or amend same. The president can cancel or amend his own Order. The next president can also cancel or amend his/her predecessors order.
I hope this helps.