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    Whe I heard that QE2 was about to be sold , I had a word wih the CEO of Cunard and told her what I thought should be done, £50,000,000 was the asking price as is with all its artefacts included.
    Moored in a Lagoon alongside the Pier Head in Liverpool, right in front of the Cunard Building where she was designed by the naval architechs on the top floor the place of her conception.
    All the lower accomodation could have been removed and converted to class rooms for Liverpool University, Help towards the cost including Student accommodation, a big demand for that. others could have been converted to Offices for businesses, what a prestigious address, "Joe Bloggs and Co,
    Queen Elizabeth 2, Pier Head Liverpool, LI.
    Other decks above could have been converted to Conference centres, and other Corporate Functions, I am sure these would have been in great demand.
    Then a night club, Restaurants, a Wedding Chapel always big business, and then the upper accommodation used for tourist accomodation etc. Many people who could not afford to sail on her could spend a weekend on her.
    The rest used as a Maritime Museum. and Shopping malls
    This operation would have employed a couple of thousand or more people, on various staffing jobs for the different functions., Cleaners , Maintenance engineers, and many other jobs on deck on maintenance.
    She would have been more successful that the old Queen Mary in Long Beach , this would also increase the Tourism trade in Liverpool.
    The CEO of Cunard didnt want to know, she said they wanted a quick sale and the Arab had bid the £ 50,000,000
    Which in business terms is not a lot. Where she ended up for the last four years was a terrible place in a berth out of the way in Port Raschid.
    A few Liverpool Pop stars could have invested in her and put their money back into Liverpool.
    What a waste of the worlds most famous ship. She has travelled more miles than any other ship in history, circled the globe more than any other ship, carried more passengers than any other ship and she was probably faster than any other ship.this was never tested and when it was, it was never made public. as I said before we did 38 knots across from Japan to L.A. Not bad.
    Cheers
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    Default Wreck of HMS Victory:

    American bounty hunters submit plans to raise gold coins worth hundreds of millions from the wreck of HMS Victory:

    In 2008, the wreck was discovered by Odyssey Marine Exploration, 264 years after it sank:

    It is believed it could contain gold worth hundreds of millions of pounds and 100 bronze cannon:

    Descendants of crew and experts say it could betray those killed to exploit it for commercial gain:


    Read more: Anger at U.S. bounty hunters as they submit plans to raise gold coins worth hundreds of millions from the wreck of HMS Victory | Mail Online

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    Just out of interest Ships preserved in Britain and British Ships preserved
    Name Country Region City Nationality Launched Class Type Remarks Link
    af Chapman (1888) Sweden Stockholm County Stockholm United Kingdom

    1888 Full rigged Ship
    HMS Alliance United Kingdom England Gosport United Kingdom

    1945 Amphion class Submarine Royal Navy Submarine Museum
    Arctic Corsair United Kingdom England Kingston upon Hull United Kingdom

    1960 Deep sea Trawler
    Arctic Penguin United Kingdom Scotland Inveraray United Kingdom

    1910 Steel-hulled Lightvessel [15]
    HMS Belfast United Kingdom England London United Kingdom

    1938 Town class Light cruiser Imperial War Museum [27]
    Biber 90 United Kingdom England London Nazi Germany

    1944 Biber Submarine Imperial War Museum [31]
    Biber 105 United Kingdom England Gosport Nazi Germany

    1944 Biber Submarine Royal Navy Submarine Museum [32]
    HMY Britannia United Kingdom Scotland Edinburgh United Kingdom

    1953 Hospital ship Royal Yacht Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom [40]
    Brocklebank United Kingdom England Liverpool United Kingdom

    1964 Sea-going Tug Merseyside Maritime Museum [41]
    HMS Bronington United Kingdom England Birkenhead United Kingdom

    1951 Ton class Minesweeper Warship Preservation Trust [42]
    HMS Caroline United Kingdom Northern Ireland Belfast United Kingdom

    1914 C Class Cruiser
    HMS Cavalier United Kingdom England Chatham United Kingdom

    1943 C Class Destroyer Chatham Historic Dockyard [50]
    Cervia United Kingdom England Ramsgate United Kingdom

    1945 Steam Tug East Kent Maritime Museum [51]
    City of Adelaide United Kingdom Scotland Irvine United Kingdom

    1864 Clipper Scottish Maritime Museum
    HM CMB 4 United Kingdom England Duxford United Kingdom

    1916 45 Foot Coastal Motor Boat
    HMS Courageous United Kingdom England Plymouth United Kingdom

    1970 Churchill class Submarine
    Cutty Sark United Kingdom England Greenwich United Kingdom

    1869 Clipper Cutty Sark Trust [64]
    Daniel Adamson United Kingdom England Liverpool United Kingdom

    1903 Steam tug Tender Daniel Adamson Preservation Society [66]
    De Wadden United Kingdom England Liverpool United Kingdom

    1917 Trading Schooner Merseyside Maritime Museum [68]
    RRS Discovery United Kingdom Scotland Dundee United Kingdom

    1901 Wooden Barque Dundee Heritage Trust [70]
    SS Explorer United Kingdom Scotland Edinburgh United Kingdom

    1955 Steam-powered Research vessel Triple expansion steam engine [74]
    Falls of Clyde United States Hawaii Honolulu United Kingdom

    1878 Iron-hulled Full rigged ship [75]
    HMS Gannet United Kingdom England Chatham United Kingdom

    1878 Doterel class Sloop, steam powered Chatham Historic Dockyard [85]
    Garlandstone United Kingdom England Morwellham Quay United Kingdom

    1903 Cargo ship Ketch [86]
    Gipsy Moth IV United Kingdom England Greenwich United Kingdom

    1962 Yacht Francis Chichester [88]
    Glenlee United Kingdom Scotland Glasgow United Kingdom

    1872 Steel Barque [90]
    SS Great Britain United Kingdom England Bristol United Kingdom

    1843 Iron hull Ship Isambard Kingdom Brunel [92]
    HMS Holland 1 United Kingdom England Gosport United Kingdom

    1901 Holland class Submarine John Philip Holland [105]
    Jacinta United Kingdom England Fleetwood United Kingdom

    1972 Trawler [111]
    James Caird United Kingdom England London United Kingdom

    1912 Whaleboat Endurance [113]
    James Craig Australia New South Wales Sydney United Kingdom

    1874 Iron hulled Barque [114]
    John H Amos United Kingdom Chatham Kent United Kingdom

    1931 Paddlewheel tugboat Chatham Historic Dockyard [119]
    HMS LCT (3) 7074 United Kingdom England Birkenhead United Kingdom

    1945 Landing craft tank Amphibious assault ship
    LR 3 United Kingdom England Gosport United Kingdom

    1982 Deep sea Submersible [153]
    Lydia Eva United Kingdom England Great Yarmouth United Kingdom

    1930 Steam powered Fishing ship Herring drifter [158]
    HMS M 33 United Kingdom England Portsmouth United Kingdom

    1915 M29 class Monitor [159]
    PS Maid of the Loch United Kingdom Scotland Loch Lomond United Kingdom

    1953 Paddle steamer Not a Museum ship [161]
    Mary Rose United Kingdom England Portsmouth United Kingdom

    1509 Tudor Carrack [164]
    SS Nomadic United Kingdom Northern Ireland Belfast United Kingdom

    1911 Steamship Tender RMS Titanic [190]
    HMS Ocelot United Kingdom England Chatham United Kingdom

    1962 Oberon class Submarine Chatham Historic Dockyard [196]
    HMS Onyx United Kingdom England Sydney United Kingdom

    1966 Oberon class Submarine Falklands War [200]
    HMS Otus Germany Mecklenburg-Vorpommern Sassnitz United Kingdom

    1973 Oberon class Submarine [202]
    HMS Plymouth United Kingdom England Birkenhead United Kingdom

    1959 Rothesay class Frigate Falklands War [214]
    Pyronaut United Kingdom England Bristol United Kingdom

    1934 Fireboat [227]
    RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 United Arab Emirate Dubai Palm Jumeirah United Kingdom

    1967 Cunard Line Ocean Liner [228]
    RMS Queen Mary United States California Long Beach United Kingdom

    1934 Cunard Line Ocean Liner [229]
    SS Robin United Kingdom England London United Kingdom

    1890 Coastal Steamship West India Quay
    Spurn Lightship United Kingdom England Kingston upon Hull United Kingdom

    1927 Lightvessel Hull Marina
    Star of India United States California San Diego United Kingdom, United States
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    1863 Tall ship Barque National Historic Landmark
    Sundowner United Kingdom England Ramsgate United Kingdom

    1912 Motor yacht Charles Lightoller [242]
    HMS Trincomalee United Kingdom England Hartlepool United Kingdom

    1817 Leda class Frigate
    Turbinia United Kingdom England Newcastle upon Tyne United Kingdom

    1894 Steam turbine Steamship
    HMS Unicorn United Kingdom Scotland Dundee United Kingdom

    1824 Leda class Frigate
    HMS Valiant United Kingdom England Plymouth United Kingdom

    1963 Valiant-class Submarine Nuclear marine propulsion
    VIC 18, also known as "Spartan" United Kingdom Scotland Irvine United Kingdom

    1940 Clyde puffer Steamboat Scottish Maritime Museum
    VIC 27, also known as "Vital Spark", "Auld Reekie", and "Maggie" United Kingdom Scotland Inveraray United Kingdom

    1943 Clyde puffer Victualling Inshore Craft Inverary Maritime Museum [247]
    VIC 56 United Kingdom England Chatham United Kingdom

    1946 Steamboat Ammunition vessel [248]
    VIC 72, also known as "Vital Spark", formerly "Eilean Eisdeal" United Kingdom Scotland Inveraray United Kingdom

    1944 Clyde puffer Victualling Inshore Craft Inverary Maritime Museum [249]
    HMS Victory United Kingdom England Portsmouth United Kingdom

    1765 First rate Ship of the line Battle of Trafalgar
    HMS Warrior United Kingdom England Portsmouth United Kingdom

    1860 Ironclad Armored Frigate
    HMS Wilton United Kingdom England Leigh-on-Sea United Kingdom

    1972 Ton class Minesweeper Glass-reinforced plastic
    PS Wingfield Castle United Kingdom England Hartlepool United Kingdom

    1934 Paddle steamer Hartlepool's Maritime Experience
    HMS X24 United Kingdom England Gosport United Kingdom

    X class Submarine Royal Navy Submarine Museum
    HMS X51 "Stickleback" United Kingdom England Duxford United Kingdom

    1954 Stickleback class Submarine Imperial War Museum Duxford
    HMS XE8 "Expunger" United Kingdom England Chatham United Kingdom

    1945 XE class submarine Submarine Chatham Historic Dockyard
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    Now looking at that big long list , there are more preservation's than I thought , and a few are missing off that list , I have thought of three or four , what we don't have preserved is a five hatch general cargo ship , but , if we did would it be interesting to anyone , Coal fired Galleys , and wood panelling in some of the the cabins , bilges swilling with oil and sea water , a pneumatic pressure tank on the sanitary water supply that you could bleed air into overnight , so it percolated upwards , giving the old man or the Chief an air flush and back flow when they used the toilet first thing in the morning because they were the highest placed toilets on the system and the air percolated upwards . The huge ball bearings that rolled around in the vent trunk in the mate's cabin , he did not give a dam which part of the ship got chipped after lunch as long as it was outside the engineer's cabins , so we used to let those large steel balls rattle over his head when . he turned in . The holes in the second Stewards weights so he gave short measure to the crew on their stores would that explain why some Chief Stewards got awful reputations . Things that we would understand that Joe Public would never appreciate would not attract visitors , The King Line ships that had the Engineers toilets nested in between the generator exhausts so it was 120 F in there in London in winter . It would have been nice to have a Blue Flue cargo boat , and the Old Windsor Castle , tied up with a collier , and a liberty ship , next to an SD14 ,The old ferries that dragged the cars and trains to France but they have all sailed off to Alang in the Gulf of Khambat , because they are just too expensive to save , without subsidy . They are gone and as much as we would want to save them to tell our grandchildren about when we never had it so good , we have unfortunately missed the boat
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    I have been tasked with getting an MN ship into Barry Dock for the Year of the Convoy, a tall order. Can only do what I do. Many fingers crossed. K.

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    Missing off my list Keith is the Shieldhall , now they were strapped for cash a little whilst ago , so they could be a starting point for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Cloherty View Post
    It was a misunderstanding, the Bosun thought he was only selling the old ropes out the foc'sle, it was only later he realised why he'd got such a good price for them!
    is that said with tongue in cheek.

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    ​how about the Balmoral Keith, taken out of service for this year ?
    Tony Wilding

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    There is also the STEAM TUG KEARNE,.
    S.T.KERNE was built in 1913.

    Due to a dedicated band of enthusiasts, she can still be seen steaming around the waters of North West Britain.
    On Google,..................Home - STEAM TUG "KERNE"
    Home - STEAM TUG "KERNE"
    She is 100 years old this year, A lovely coal burning tug well maintained by a dedicated group ov volunteers.

    Around 1980 a friend invited me to sail on her, They had to have a Masters ticket to get from Liverpool to Manchester up the Canal and back to the River Weaver. So I had a great weekend there, I didnt have to do any thing, just be on board for the Canal Transits. It was my, ""first Masters job"".
    I went below and threw a pitch on, she had two coal fired boilers, one a left handed shovel and the other a right handed shovel. a beautiful steam engine room full of of brass,
    She is often seen in the Mersey in the Albert Dock or at the Museum at Ellesmere Port in the Canal.
    She has appeared in several period.Movies including an old Titanic movie starring Barnara Strysand.

    Just click on the site above. With lots of videos of her and one of her steam Engine working,
    Cheers
    Brian.
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    SHOULD INCLUDE THE LINK TO DEEP SEA'S POST.

    LINK: http://www.merchant-navy.net/forum/h...steamship.html

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