nurses suicide

[Red Lead Ted]

By the posts are pretty much the same, I think Brian {Kong } Raises one very important point this girl was of Hindu, Origin she sadly fell for it hook line and sinker ? And as John Pru, Says was standing in for someone. The 2 DJ,s in there defence would not have known this when they pulled the prank. But you cant defend the radio station for continuing to broadcast the conversation after the girls death. And i must go back to what i originally said is this radio station going to step in and help her widower he still has 2 teenage kids left Motherless. And i still say you will find a clever barrister of law to find prosecutions amongst all this shambles Rob, also raises a very hot potato going on in the UK At the moment in the wake of lord leveson,s inquiry on how far the media can and cant go. These 2 DJs couldn't have picked a worse time to pull this tragic prank. Take it from me they haven't heard the last of it. And rightly so Regards Lads Terry. p.s just a footnote to this Queen Elizabeth is both the patron of this hospital/ And still the Monarch of Australia. Terry.

[Jim Brady]

According to todays paper Jacintha's brother said she was a devout Catholic.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Ivan Cloherty]

Whilst this is tragic and the Australian Radio Station has no defence as they sanctioned the prank, which they had stated earlier whilst the prank was 'still okay', there is a lot more to this than meets the eye. It's alright the hospital saying they had stood fair and square behind the poor woman and sympathised with her for being a victim of a prank before her demise I do think there is a possibilty that may not be as close to the truth that they would wish us to believe. There are people who work in the NHS who doubt very much the hospital's version of their support as there is a culture to protect yourself against your colleagues mistakes and she would, or may have been reprimanded; I don't see the culture of a private hospital being that much different from an NHS hospital because most everyone, if not everyone, would have passed through the NHS system in their careers. If she had been reprimanded, and I see no reason to doubt that, then it would have only added to her woes, in addition there is also the possibility of her colleagues having a little fun at her expense, though naturally that will be denied, but it is human nature. We of the seafaring fraternity are much more aware of human nature than most by the very nature of our calling and passed remarks and comments who have suffered a misfortune or mishap, all done without rancour or with malice and accepted by the victim of the comments in the same vein. Unfortunately a lot of people are unable to accept such remarks in the spirit they were intended and on top of the guilt the poor woman was already feeling such banter may have driven her over the top. Alas I fear the truth will never out, but as Shakespeare would say "I think the hospital does protest its innocence too much"

[John Pruden]

she would have been bollocked about it there and then but seeing it was not her job in the first place to man the phone it would i think not warrant a reprimand by say managers but the sister in charge of the ward? and you would think someone from the palace would have taken over the part of switch board concerning the princess.jp

[Chris Allman]

I think there could be some Indian culture issues here. I seem to recall that with Indian crews, you had to be very careful not to cause loss of face or any humiliation as this was judged extremely serious and damaging to a persons dignity and pride, especially if done in front of subordinates. There was also a sense of loyalty and a loss of face if any thing was done to damage that loyalty. Could the lady perhaps have judged that she let the Duchess and through her the Queen down and as a result was devastated and took her own life.

[Les Woodard]

Sorry to say but for me this is a gross over reaction to a tragic event. I just wish that all this rage could have been directed to one of the worst villians in the world causing suicides and emotional harm and that is all those religious freaks that abused and are still abusing kids today. As well as many more within the church and government that are trying their best to cover it up still. Just trying to put this into perspective. Do not get me wrong what happened is stupid and should not have happened. Just seems that everyone is jumping on the band wagon over one suicide while burying one's head in the sand over many more that should be accounted for. Have I got this right as well? They have not held an inquest into what actually happened to the nurse yet and what if it turns out that this incident was just the tipping point (which does not abslove them) of other issues within her life.

Where are all those ones that keep spouting about not agreeing with what another says but will fight to their death to allow them to say it. Freedom of speach does come at a price and unfortunatly this is one of the prices it costs. Or are we after total control over it all and I for one ceraintly am not for that. It was a stupid prank that went horribly wrong and if it had not would have been laughed about for a while then gone. Much like the bloke that broke into the palace and stood at the foot of the Queens bed is not talked about anymore.

[robpage]

My worry Les is that the Post the Leveson enquiry , there is a debate here in the UK that has a lot of people wanting to put legislation in place to regulate the press , what bothers me about that is besides the fact that it will take away the freedom of the press for the first time in 300 years , is that senior Labour Politicians want to get the controls in place . I was , am , and always will be suspicious of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown , I feel that they were self seeking people , to let them get a stranglehold on the press would have been a disaster , The McCanns who tragically lost a child as did the Dowlers are vocal in gagging the press , because of the stupidity of News International , this just adds fuel to the fire . My problem is that this stupidity plays into the hands of those who want control over Press Freedom . I saw the Lady who was the prank caller , I felt that she was genuinely remorseful on tonight's TV , but if our press gets political or statutory control it will be a disaster .

[Chris Allman]

Personally Rob, I saw the interviews too and I don't think either of them were remorseful. It was put on, especially by the male and I think that they had been well coached in what to say and how to act. She claimed ignorance as to procedures after the call was recorded, just as if she did not know what went on, yeah OK, hey look a squadron of pigs have just flown overhead.

Their reactions after the phone call, showed me just what type of person they both are, two people who revel in other peoples discomfort, shame and humiliation and brag that they were the ones who made it all happen. He stated that he did not know how he could ever top that. Well they made it happen alright, they made two youngsters motherless and a husband a widow.

I have nothing but hatred and disgust for both of them.

[Red Lead Ted]

I understand were you are both coming from regarding this tragedy, Lets imagine this girl had not took her life. These 2 DJs would have the number one hit of the century on YouTube. Unfortunately the girl did commit suicide there are conflicting tales from the hospital/ and the radio station. Ihave just watched the BBC late evening news and the hospital are adamant they never gave the radio station permission or in fact ever recieved a phone call regarding the prank call. There is to be an inquiry into this. And i agree Rob it does add fuel to the fire for freedom of speech. If you think what good the free press has put out this year alone M,Ps Expense scandal, Hillsborough families vindicated after 22yrs, Jimmy Savile charade, The catholic church as Les rightly says, Abuse of the mentally ill in this country, And much more. In the wake of Levinson's report these two grown up people {Not young kids} have done us no favours if this ends up pear shaped. Regards Lads Terry. p.s. Chris i have to agree with you they tried to pass the buck crocodile tears you are posting what a lot of people are thinking i admire you for that Regards Terry.

[Keith at Tregenna]

2 MORE SUICIDES IN OZ:

Not really the answer either.

But, croc tears or not, would feel bad if we push them over the edge ?

No right or wrong, but need to wake up to some good news.

K.