Here;s a new thread 4 the old grey matter back to front questions find the answers q?

[Doc Vernon]

Hi John,
Very interesting read here mate,and it is good to know more about the old UCL!
That Shipping Company was first known as UNION STEAM COLLIER CO 1853.Then
In 1857 the Union Steam Ship Co

I think the Union,Briton, Dane,Norman,Saxon and Roman were these Ships??
Used primarary for carrying the Mial between England and South Africa.

or

transport coal from South Wales to Southampton

Cheers

[Doc Vernon]

Good going Terry! Great mate!

The companies involved as far as i know were!

The Union Line history 1853
Southampton Steam Shipping Company (then renamed the Union Steam Collier Company, then the Union Steamship Company)
In 1857, renamed the Union Line
Castle Packet Co
Castle Line
Castle Line had its origins with Donald Currie's purchase of a controlling interest in the Leith, Hull and Hamburg Steam Packet Company in 1862 after he resigned from Cunard Line. He registered his shipping business as Donald Currie & Co of Liverpool and set up for trade with India by ordering his fleet of four sailing ships, all with the suffix "Castle" in their names.
Castle Mail Packet Company
In 1876, Castle Mail Packet Co. Ltd was formed. Later that year, the Colonial Government awarded a joint mail contract, resulting in in a state of intense competition between both firms. The service to the Cape thus became weekly by alternating steamers.

Union Line and Castle Shipping Line merged 8 March 1900, creating the Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company, Ltd, with Castle Shipping Line taking over the fleet.

Have i left out any??
Cheers




Terry!!
Are these in your list/

PEMBROKE CASTLE
NORHAM CASTLE
HAWARDEN CASTLE
DOUNE CASTLE
LISMORE CASTLE
AVONDALE CASTLE
DUNOLLY CASTLE,
KENILWORTH CASTLE
GALWAY CASTLE
BARRY CASTLE
BEAUMARIS CASTLE
BRECON CASTLE
CLYNE CASTLE
CONISBRO' CASTLE
DUNRAVEN CASTLE
EDINBORO' CASTLE
GLENAPP CASTLE
GROSMONT CASTLE
LOCHNELL CASTLE
NEATH CASTLE
POWIS CASTLE
SWANSEA CASTLE
TENBY CASTLE
Dunluce Castle
METHVEN CASTLE
ARDTORNISH CASTLE
NORHAM CASTLE
DUNLUCE CASTLE
YORK CASTLE
GALICIAN CASTLE
GLENGORM CASTLE
CORFE CASTLE
AROS CASTLE



WARSHIPS

RUSHEN CASTLE
PORCHESTER CASTLE
PEVENSEY CASTLE
OXFORD CASTLE
OAKHAM CASTLE
MORPETH CASTLE
LEEDS CASTLE
LAUNCESTOR CASTLE
LANCASTER CASTLE
KNARESBOROUGH CASTLE
HEDINGHAM CASTLE
HADLEIGH CASTLE
FLINT CASTLE
FARNHAM CASTLE
DUMBARTON CASTLE
CAISTOR CASTLE
BERKELEY CASTLE
BAMBOROUGH CASTLE
AMBERLEY CASTLE
ALNWICK CASTLE
ALLINGTON CASTLE

Cheers

[Doc Vernon]

Well seeing as there were no absolutely correct answers to my Quiz Post #85
here is the Link with all the answers! Remember the Clue i gave
INDEPENDENCE!!

http://www.rms-republic.com/index1.html

[happy daze john in oz]

Vernon you are correct on both counts, the names and original use. Two blue smarties and a half eaten stick of chewy for you. My information from a book, "Every Thursday At Four O"Clock".

[Gulliver]

That's an awful lot of Castle ships.! but how about casting the nets just a little bit wider now?....

James Chambers & Co (Liverpool) had four 'Castles. 'Three were purchased by Elder Dempster in 1943 ,and renamed in 1946. The fourth had been torpedoed in 1942.

Greystoke Castle
(blt 1928,renamed Freetown in 1946.Broken up Hamburg 1958.)
Thurland Castle
(blt.1929,renamed Fulani 1946.Broken up Odense 1958)
Penrith Castle
(blt 1929 renamed Fantee 1946.Wrecked on Seven Stones Reef 1949)
Muncaster Castle blt.1928. Torpedoed in 2-02N 12-02W 30/3/42 with loss of 24 lives.

There were others,especially early large 4-masted barques named after Lancashire & Cumbrian castles,e.g. Lowther Castle,Lancaster Castle,Wray Castle and Pendragon Castle.


By the way,re the Fantee( ex Penrith Castle,above),there 's a Wreck Report for anyone interested.

Gulliver
http://search.plimsoll.org/cgi-bin/d...%3Dp%2Cs%3Dall

[Doc Vernon]

Hi Davey,
Well mae that is great!
The more the Merrier,and you have added yet more,thank you!
I am actually trying to get a fuller list of all Ships named "something Castle" so anymore that you come across do please post.
I will look into the others that you mention too!
Gee these are growing,however not all from the UCL!
BUT ITS INTERESTING!

John
that sonds like a good read,i may look if they have that in our local Library!

Cheers

[Red Lead Ted]

vernon was i right regarding the ss arapahoe becoming a cunard R.M.S. after a fire at lpool docks plz inform me? as for her five cargo:s. i am due a couple of hours peace@quite at my local library. if i have the right ship i will find her cargo? cheers mate terry

[Red Lead Ted]

Good going Terry! Great mate!

The companies involved as far as i know were!

The Union Line history 1853
Southampton Steam Shipping Company (then renamed the Union Steam Collier Company, then the Union Steamship Company)
In 1857, renamed the Union Line
Castle Packet Co
Castle Line
Castle Line had its origins with Donald Currie's purchase of a controlling interest in the Leith, Hull and Hamburg Steam Packet Company in 1862 after he resigned from Cunard Line. He registered his shipping business as Donald Currie & Co of Liverpool and set up for trade with India by ordering his fleet of four sailing ships, all with the suffix "Castle" in their names.
Castle Mail Packet Company
In 1876, Castle Mail Packet Co. Ltd was formed. Later that year, the Colonial Government awarded a joint mail contract, resulting in in a state of intense competition between both firms. The service to the Cape thus became weekly by alternating steamers.

Union Line and Castle Shipping Line merged 8 March 1900, creating the Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company, Ltd, with Castle Shipping Line taking over the fleet.

Have i left out any??
Cheers




Terry!!
Are these in your list/

PEMBROKE CASTLE
NORHAM CASTLE
HAWARDEN CASTLE
DOUNE CASTLE
LISMORE CASTLE
AVONDALE CASTLE
DUNOLLY CASTLE,
KENILWORTH CASTLE
GALWAY CASTLE
BARRY CASTLE
BEAUMARIS CASTLE
BRECON CASTLE
CLYNE CASTLE
CONISBRO' CASTLE
DUNRAVEN CASTLE
EDINBORO' CASTLE
GLENAPP CASTLE
GROSMONT CASTLE
LOCHNELL CASTLE
NEATH CASTLE
POWIS CASTLE
SWANSEA CASTLE
TENBY CASTLE
Dunluce Castle
METHVEN CASTLE
ARDTORNISH CASTLE
NORHAM CASTLE
DUNLUCE CASTLE
YORK CASTLE
GALICIAN CASTLE
GLENGORM CASTLE
CORFE CASTLE
AROS CASTLE



WARSHIPS

RUSHEN CASTLE
PORCHESTER CASTLE
PEVENSEY CASTLE
OXFORD CASTLE
OAKHAM CASTLE
MORPETH CASTLE
LEEDS CASTLE
LAUNCESTOR CASTLE
LANCASTER CASTLE
KNARESBOROUGH CASTLE
HEDINGHAM CASTLE
HADLEIGH CASTLE
FLINT CASTLE
FARNHAM CASTLE
DUMBARTON CASTLE
CAISTOR CASTLE
BERKELEY CASTLE
BAMBOROUGH CASTLE
AMBERLEY CASTLE
ALNWICK CASTLE
ALLINGTON CASTLE

Cheers

the windsor castle, was the last to be scrapped in 2005. i watched a t.v. programme very recently where they went aboard what is left of her with a t,v, crew.how sad to see what was a splendid ship like that which i myself done a xmas cruise aboard back in 1975, reduced to a heap of scrap she should have been put away in mothballs and maintained somewhere.its a great shame these ships arnt around for our younger generation to sail and enjoy, but i am sure you remember back in 1999,the U.C.L. was revived for a one of millenium cruise in december.p@o:s victoria was charted for a 60 day cruise around the cape she had her funnel repainted for the occasion. i think between me you @gulliver and johns input we have just about closed the book on this one, happy days indeed but sadely gone forever regards vern, i enjoyed that thread. regards all terry.

[Doc Vernon]

Hi Terry,
Yes now all gone unfortunately,and more is the pity,as it was indeed a splendid Line,like so many others!
I really wanted to go on that Mellinium Voyage,but the fares were then a bit out of my reach! Oh how that would have been the ultimate!!
Thanks for the thread Terry,it sure is interesting!
Cheers
Attached Cover of Brochure of that Voyage,and Letter i received from UCL on my enquiry!
Beautifull inside the Brochure,with lots og nice Pics and Info,Deck Plans etc! Great keepsake!

Damn wish i had been RICH!! LOL

[Les Woodard]

Do not wish that Vernon because if you had been rich then you would not have the memories that you now have besides that you are assured that all your friends want to know you because of who you are and not what you have. Something that those with money do not have I am sure. We have what a lot of them will never know and that is mates that want to do things for us just because they want to.