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    #28. Has explained the sequence of events very adequately.. Exactly the way I see it. It was among other things a good PR exercise to show equality among the sexes. However life does not work like that. Just put them on rigging a 200 ton jumbo. Where brawn is as essential as knowledge, they need custom built ships to employ most of them and do. Not get promotion on merit. Mainly it is just the opposite to equality. Anyone can get a certificate of competency if they put in sufficient study time , but real experience comes from being able to do the job , and beef as well. Not just telling someone else to do. I have also sailed with men who should have known better, prancing around in all their glory , good at giving orders , but wouldn’t have a clue how to take one. A proper seaman of old could walk on most vessel types and pick up the ropes , today most have to be specialised , when they did away with the old seatime for certification they killed the title of seaman. JS
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    Gentlemen - this Thread has gone way ' Off Topic ' - I have therefore created a new Thread entitled ' Foreign Crew Members ' and transferred your posts there.

    I would like to remind all members of the Site Rules which state ' Messages posted that are irrelevant to the discussion and designed to distract or disrupt will be deleted without warning. '

    I do not wish to delete any posts, but will if necessary. Consistently going Off Topic spoils very interesting Threads and is quite honestly, very unfair and rude to the originator of the Thread as it shows disinterest in the original topic.

    May I ask that if you wish to go ' Off Topic ' then PLEASE start a New Thread on your new topic, a not unreasonable request I would suggest.

    Thank you for your assistance in this matter.
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    Chris I don't think any of us who inadvertently stray off course do it intentionally or wish to insult or disrespect the originator of the initial post, we drift off course without malice or forethought, and on occasions the originator drifts off course with us. I know when I originate a thread I am never insulted if it drifts off course, as I know that probably a word or place has reawakened a dormant memory and wish to jot it down before it disappears into Davey Jones Locker again. We do try to abide by the rules but alas are only human and also are afflicted with old age, so with all due respect a big stick attitude is not really appropriate and our posts are 'definitely NOT designed to distract or disrupt'

    Whilst I totally respect your position as a moderator and certainly admire your ability to transfer posts hither and hither, accusations of disrespect are certainly not warranted and may dissuade some from posting, just my thoughts. Rgds

    If I have insulted the originator then I sincerely apologise
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    Good evening Ivan and thank you for your reply. I appreciate that drifting happens, but I have to say that I am getting more than a little fed up having to create posts to preserve both an interesting Thread and also interesting off shoots. A little more thought on behalf of the poster as to the drifting, would go a long way to preventing this problem and spare any upset that the original poster might feel, ( which I might add I do get complaints about ) that his/her original post had been usurped by someone else's differing subject.

    In this case, I do find it hard to equate how a Thread on ' Women crew members and wives at sea ' suddenly metamorphosed into a Thread about Indian Deck Officers and their behaviour !!!

    I am only asking that anyone considering another subject should open that subject in a new Thread rather than basically destroy an interesting and informative Thread by introducing a new totally different subject. As I said previously, not an unreasonable request.

    I am not a youngster either, being very well into my twilight years but I still try to abide by the rules and keep the site as trouble free and as enjoying as possible, hence my efforts to create new Threads rather than delete what are possibly valuable and interesting comments.

    All I am asking for is that members abide by the rules regarding 'Off Topic Posts ' and keep to the subject in question, whilst seeking their assistance in that quest. Not really a ' big stick ' approach I would think, merely a very reasonable request.
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    #33. Ivan as originator of the post you certainly havenít upset me, in fact just the opposite. If you also notice on. My post I have mentioned Wifeís which is in the title of the original post .Nit picking was never in. My vocabulary but try my best to look for fleas as always. Cheers JS.
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    I certainly dont think there was any Malice or whatever meant in what Chris posted, its just that we as Moderators are trying to keep Subjects and Threads to what they are.
    Yes of course we all stray at times me too,and i can fully understand that. As said when one reads a Thread and replies,at times the mind does wonder back,and many memories are brought forward.
    Its sometimes hard i know,but may we ask that you just read the Title first and then reply.

    There will always be wonderings away from the original to this i must agree. As said we are just Human.

    So please do not take Umbridge at what is asked ,as its only our Job that we do try and please all.

    As this sort of thing has been approached many times in the past, i think that we as Moderators may be able to allow a bit off Topic ,as long as it does not drift too far away from the Thread. Would that be in order Lads!

    So lets see how things Pan out , but all we ask is to try! Pretty Please!
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    We certainly do not wish that asking to do something will have a direct effect on People posting, i am sure that all will understand. The site seems to be doing well now and the posts are rolling in,so Lads lets keep it that way . Thank You
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    Yes Vernon ,at time we all wander away from the subject.

    Just before the lock down I was at the local club having a few cold ones but maybe too many as I wandered off course and ended up in a ditch.
    You just have to be so careful these days.
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    I think wives made a positive impact on all ships that I served on from Deck Cadet to Chief Officer. As a Cadet we had some Great partyís with dancing and singing, with wifeís doing the organising. My wife came with me when I was 2nd Mate flying out to Singapore. The ship had 6 wives and Sue made it up-to 7. Because the ship was going to the Pacific Islands we stayed on another 2 months. Every birthday was celebrated with a party organised by the wives. I was posted to serve in the North Sea and wives were only allowed to visit the ship when we docked in the U.K. but we did 2 months on and 2 off. I did 2 trips then went back deep sea joining my ship in Cape Town and Sue joined me in Rotterdam to save on the Airfare and we both paid off Dubai. I think it is nice to see that girls can train to be a Deck and Engineering Officers. Sue and I have worked hard running a Rickety Old Petrol Station and kiosk developing it into a Moderm self service fuel station and supermarket. All I can say I was lucky to have such a clever and hard working partner and wife. We did have two kids also. May we wish everyone at sea the best of luck and those retired the best of luck. Kind regards Paul and Sue.

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    Appreciated Paul.

    Thanks, Keith.
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