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    Good Morning and thankyou, the forum very kindly sent me a 66th birthday greeting earlier today and this evoked earlier memories of my Ancestry research and use of this forum when in persuit of research information. I am not an experienced user when navigating and using a forum so please forgive any mistakes I may make when using and hopefully contributing to it. I thought over the coming days I could share some information about what I found out about the merchant navy service of my father Barney and uncle Charlie ( both deceased) who both served on Empire Ray from autumn 1941 onwards.

    I am also saddened about the treatment of UK workers and their families by P&O.

    Tom Ram

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    Hello Tom
    Nice to hear from you again its been some time.
    Would be nice to read about the Findings of what you started out on, and how possibly some of the info given to you might have helped!
    Look forward to it
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    Hi Tom. Just wondering if you ever got this info in your research...

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    EMPIRE RAY (Br) 6,919 tons, built 1941

    Departure Convoy Arrival
    Clyde, Jul 12, 1941 OB.345 (Liverpool - Halifax)
    Halifax, Jul 26, 1941
    Halifax, Aug 5, 1941
    HX.143 (Halifax - Liverpool)
    Liverpool, Aug 22, 1941
    Liverpool, Sep 11, 1941
    ON.15 (Liverpool - Dispersed)




    Independent
    Halifax, Sep 24, 1941
    Halifax, Sep 28, 1941
    HX.152 (Halifax - Liverpool)
    Liverpool, Oct 12, 1941
    Liverpool, Oct 26, 1941
    ON.30 (Liverpool - Dispersed)




    Independent
    Halifax, Nov 11, 1941
    Halifax, Nov 11, 1941
    Independent
    New York, Nov 13, 1941
    New York, Nov 22, 1941
    Independent
    Halifax, Nov 24, 1941
    Halifax, Nov 27, 1941
    HX.162 (Halifax - Liverpool)
    Liverpool, Dec 11, 1941
    Milford Haven, Dec 30, 1941
    ON.52 (Liverpool - Dispersed)




    Independent
    Halifax, Jan 21, 1942
    Halifax, Feb 1, 1942
    HX.173 (Halifax - Liverpool)
    Belfast Lough, Feb 13, 1942


    BB.137 (Belfast Lough - M Haven)
    Belfast Lough, Feb 14, 1942
    Belfast Lough, Feb 14, 1942
    BB.137 (Belfast Lough - M Haven)


    Belfast Lough, Feb 17, 1942
    BB.138 (Belfast Lough - M Haven)
    Avonmouth, Feb 19, 1942


    Independent
    Swansea, Feb 23, 1942
    Avonmouth, Feb 23, 1942
    Independent
    Milford Haven, Mar 7, 1942
    Swansea, Mar 7, 1942
    Independent


    Milford Haven, Mar 8, 1942
    ON.74 (Liverpool - Halifax)
    Halifax, Mar 25, 1942
    Halifax, Mar 27, 1942
    XB.5 (Halifax - Boston)
    St John Nb, Mar 29, 1942
    St John Nb, Apr 3, 1942
    Independent
    Halifax, Apr 4, 1942
    Halifax, Apr 20, 1942
    HX.186 (Halifax - Liverpool)
    Liverpool, May 2, 1942
    Liverpool, May 15, 1942
    ON.95 (Liverpool - Cape Cod Bay)
    Halifax, May 27, 1942
    Halifax, May 31, 1942
    HX.192 (Halifax - Liverpool)
    Liverpool, Jun 11, 1942
    Liverpool, Jun 19, 1942
    ON.105 (Liverpool - Halifax)
    Halifax, Jun 30, 1942
    Halifax, Jul 6, 1942
    HX.197 (Halifax - Liverpool)


    Halifax, Jul 19, 1942
    HX.199 (Halifax - Liverpool)
    Liverpool, Jul 30, 1942
    Liverpool, Aug 30, 1942
    OS.39 (Liverpool - Freetown)




    Independent
    Mombasa, Oct 14, 1942
    Mombasa, Nov 12, 1942
    Independent
    Berbera, Nov 19, 1942
    Berbera, Nov 19, 1942
    Independent
    Aden, Nov 21, 1942
    Aden, Nov 23, 1942
    Independent
    Suez, Nov 30, 1942
    Port Said, Dec 8, 1942
    Independent
    Haifa, Dec 9, 1942
    Haifa, Dec 30, 1942
    Independent
    Port Said, Dec 31, 1942
    Port Said, Jan 4, 1943
    Independent
    Alexandria, Jan 6, 1943
    Alexandria, Jan 17, 1943
    Independent
    Port Said, Jan 18, 1943
    Suez, Jan 21, 1943
    Independent
    Aden, Jan 26, 1943
    Aden, Jan 27, 1943
    Independent
    Lourenco Marques, Feb 9, 1943
    Lourenco Marques, Feb 13, 1943
    Independent
    Durban, Feb 15, 1943
    Durban, Feb 17, 1943
    Independent
    Montevideo, Mar 12, 1943
    Montevideo, Mar 25, 1943
    Independent
    Rosario, Mar 27, 1943
    Rosario, Apr 3, 1943
    Independent
    Buenos Aires, Apr 4, 1943
    Buenos Aires, Apr 9, 1943
    Independent
    Freetown, Apr 27, 1943
    Freetown, May 11, 1943
    SL.129 (Freetown - r/v WITH MKS 13)




    SL.129MK (r/v SL 129/MKS 13 - Liverpool)
    Loch Ewe, Jun 1, 1943


    WN.436 (Loch Ewe - Methil)
    Methil, Jun 4, 1943
    Methil, Jun 4, 1943
    FS.1133 (Methil - Southend)
    Hull, Jun 5, 1943
    Hull, Jun 20, 1943
    FN.1052 (Southend - Methil)
    Methil, Jun 22, 1943
    Methil, Jun 22, 1943
    EN.246 (Methil - Loch Ewe)
    Loch Ewe, Jun 24, 1943


    ON.190 (Liverpool - NYC)
    New York, Jul 8, 1943
    New York, Jul 23, 1943
    Independent


    Hampton Roads, Jul 27, 1943
    UGS.13 (Hampton Rds - Port Said)
    Port Said, Aug 24, 1943
    Port Said, Aug 24, 1943
    Independent
    Beirut, Aug 26, 1943
    Beirut, Sep 9, 1943
    Independent
    Port Said, Sep 10, 1943
    Suez, Sep 11, 1943
    Independent
    Aden, Sep 16, 1943
    Aden, Sep 17, 1943
    Independent
    Lourenco Marques, Oct 1, 1943
    Lourenco Marques, Oct 10, 1943
    DKA.3 (Durban - Aden)
    Aden, Oct 27, 1943
    Aden, Oct 28, 1943
    Independent
    Suez, Nov 2, 1943
    Port Said, Nov 3, 1943
    Independent
    Alexandria, Nov 4, 1943
    Alexandria, Nov 12, 1943
    Independent
    Port Said, Nov 13, 1943
    Suez, Nov 14, 1943
    Independent
    Aden, Nov 19, 1943
    Aden, Nov 21, 1943
    AKD.7 (Aden - Kilindini)




    AKD.7S (Kilindini - Durban)
    Lourenco Marques, Dec 6, 1943
    Lourenco Marques, Dec 12, 1943
    Independent
    Aden, Dec 26, 1943
    Aden, Dec 27, 1943
    Independent
    Suez, Jan 1, 1944
    Port Said, Jan 10, 1944
    MKS.37 (Port Said - Gibraltar)
    Gibraltar, Jan 22, 1944
    Gibraltar, Jan 24, 1944
    Independent
    Valencia, Jan 26, 1944
    Valencia, Jan 31, 1944
    Independent
    Gibraltar, Feb 4, 1944
    Gibraltar, Feb 11, 1944
    MKS.39G (Gibraltar - r/v WITH SL 148)




    SL.148MK (r/v SL 148/MKS 39 - Liverpool)
    Liverpool, Feb 23, 1944
    Liverpool, Mar 23, 1944
    OS.72KM (Liverpool - Convoy Split)




    OS.72 (ex OS 72/KMS 46 - Freetown)
    Casablanca, Apr 14, 1944
    Casablanca, Apr 16, 1944
    OS.73 (ex OS 73/KMS 47 - Freetown)




    Independent
    Capetown, May 7, 1944
    Capetown, May 15, 1944
    CN.28 (Capetown - Dispersing)




    Independent
    Montevideo, May 31, 1944
    Montevideo, Jun 1, 1944
    Independent
    Rio Grande, Jun 2, 1944
    Rio Grande, Jun 13, 1944
    Independent
    Buenos Aires, Jun 15, 1944
    Buenos Aires, Jun 20, 1944
    Independent
    Capetown, Jul 5, 1944
    Capetown, Jul 6, 1944
    CD.46 (Capetown - Durban)
    Durban, Jul 11, 1944
    Durban, Jul 12, 1944
    Independent
    Colombo, Jul 28, 1944
    Colombo, Aug 6, 1944
    Independent
    Vizag, Aug 9, 1944
    Vizag, Aug 21, 1944
    CJ.38 (Calcutta - Colombo)
    Colombo, Aug 26, 1944
    Colombo, Aug 28, 1944
    Independent
    Capetown, Sep 14, 1944
    Capetown, Sep 21, 1944
    Independent
    Capetown, Sep 23, 1944
    Capetown, Sep 28, 1944
    Independent
    Rio De Janeiro, Oct 11, 1944
    Rio De Janeiro, Oct 12, 1944
    Independent
    Rio Grande, Oct 15, 1944
    Rio Grande, Oct 21, 1944
    Independent
    Santos, Oct 25, 1944
    Santos, Nov 1, 1944
    Independent
    Rio De Janeiro, Nov 2, 1944
    Rio De Janeiro, Nov 4, 1944
    Independent
    Dakar, Nov 16, 1944
    Dakar, Nov 18, 1944
    SL.177 (Freetown - r/v WITH MKS 68)




    SL.177MK (r/v SL 177/MKS 68 - Liverpool)
    Liverpool, Dec 5, 1944
    Liverpool, Dec 24, 1944
    ON.274 (Southend - NYC)
    Halifax, Jan 6, 1945
    Halifax, Jan 25, 1945
    HX.334 (NYC - Liverpool)
    Downs, Feb 7, 1945
    Downs, Feb 8, 1945
    TAM.74 (Southend - Antwerp)
    Antwerp, Feb 10, 1945
    Antwerp, May 6, 1945
    ATM.146 (Antwerp - Southend)
    Downs, May 7, 1945
    Downs, May 8, 1945
    TBC.151 (Southend - M Haven)
    Swansea, May 10, 1945
    Swansea, May 15, 1945
    Independent
    Milford Haven, May 16, 1945
    Milford Haven, May 18, 1945
    ON.303 (Liverpool - NYC)




    Independent
    Quebec, Jun 2, 1945
    Quebec, Jun 23, 1945
    Independent
    London, Jul 6, 1945
    London, Jul 19, 1945
    Independent


    Savannah, Aug 2, 1945
    Independent
    Savannah, Aug 3, 1945


    Independent
    Rotterdam, Aug 30, 1945
    Rotterdam, Sep 7, 1945
    Independent
    Cardiff, Sep 10, 1945
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    Data supplied by Don Kindell, extracted from the late Arnold Hague's papers with the kind permission of Mrs. Gill Hague.




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    KING ALFRED (3)
    ON. 167003 6919g. 4151n.432.2 x 56.2 x 33.2 feet.
    4-cyl: 2SC.SA oil engine by Barclay Curle & Co. Ltd., Glasgow. speed 11knots.
    1941: Completed by the Greenock Dockyard Co. Ltd., Greenock as the EMPIRE RY, for the Ministry of War Transport (J. Chambers& Co., Managers). 1944: Management transferred to Dodd Thomson & Co. Ltd.
    9.1945: Purchased by King Line and renamed KING ALFRED. 18.111.1962: Laid u in the River Blackwater. 1963: Sold Eisen and Metall A.G., Hamburg for demolition. 16.3.1963: Arrived Hamburg.
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    Thankyou for your reply. I will have to spend a little time learning how to navigate and use a froum site, and also look again through my research work ( in biscuit tins) , but off the top of my head the initial information provided from members / sources on this site led me to the National Archives, Kew Gardens which I visited, and also directed me at the time to a number of websites which helped me to piece together and sift out the Atlantic convoys which both my dad and uncle Charlie were part of. My dad was medically discharged from Merchant Navy service during 1942, and then worked as a cook throughout the war at The Colsea ( "Cosy") merchant navy seaman mission on Upper Stanhope Street, Liverpool. Uncle Charlie was only 18 when he went to sea with dad, and served in numerous theatres for the duration of the war until discharged 1946 I think.

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    Many thanks for this information. Yes, I did end up finding information like this from a number of sources, but not as concisely presented as this - thankyou. Its been a while , 2 years or more since I looked over my findings but from the top of my head / from memory and this vessel was scrapped in the early 1960`s in Germany !. When I become competent using and navigating this site I can post a photo or 2 of the Empire Ray ( Halifax) with catapult to take a hurricane fighter as she was converted (together with a number of other similar vessels) to become an armed merchantman doubling up as a freight carrier, our quick version fix for a mini aircraft carrier and of course needed to be armed as well.I am originally from LPool - moved away 45 years ago, and so did a little more finding out about the single aircraft carried by other vessels like Empire Ray. The aircraft were usually clapped out hurricanes, and I think for a while US wildcats until the gap was bridged and sufficient built for service aircraft carriers became available to protect some of the convoys.Liverpool Airport is where the RAF personnel were stationed for these "hurricats"

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