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    Hello. I spent a few years [late 50's early 60's] with Elder Dempster & Paddy Hendersons as a Writer in Pursers Dept and latterly with P.Henderson as 2nd.Stwd
    Came ashore in 1962 and like many ex seamen flitted from one job to another. Had some great times and sailed with some great people. unfortunately at 81 years of age I've probably outlived most of them! However if there is anyone out there who remembers the "Oti" Shonga Kaladan Kalewa Kohima or Salween please get in touch it would be great to hear from you

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    I sailed on the TARKWA in 1954, not a happy ship, glad to get off,never sailed with EDs again.
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    Well David
    If this is your Pouch which i am sure it is then you are by far the nearest i have come to my Number which is R697530 , so you must have been very close to me in joining.

    Your DOB too is very close, with mine in June of 1940.
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    #2 Brian one quite often hears of horror stories and sometimes one has recourse to be a part of such , but not too often one hopes. The manning of vessels one gets to know more when sailing as mate as have more contact workwise with people. I went mate in 1963 and was fortuanetley on mainly Running Agreements which with running in and out of the uk left plenty of room for replacements. Up until that time however the BSF were very selective and held the whip hand on who they sent to what ship, it was a well known fact if you had been a bad boy , you would get the ships that they considered had a bad reputation. By 1964 they were sending such people down to ships with their pool papers to see the mate or second engineer to choose , and as said in another post , I used to ignore the DRs and accept in any case. I knew from experience some of those DRs were not necessary in some cases , and even if they were, the seaman himself would not want another one , so for at least one trip he was going to be a good boy. There is nothing worse on a ship than a lot of dissent , and today the ships staff have a bit more control on this as long as the shore keeps their nose out of it. The first advances were made when the DR system was expunged , this stopped any misuse of. I am not against all changes at sea , just the ones I see that are detrimental to the industry as a whole. An unhappy ship due to personality’s should be nipped in the bud as soon as possible , if not possible, I too would leave it .Cheers JS
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    On the TARKWA I was aloft on the mast table breaking out the Jumbo,.in PORT HARCOURT, NIGERIA,
    My hands were greasy from the wires and when climbing over the table to the mast ladder my hands slipped and I fell nearly 50 feet and landed between the two winches,
    I was covered in blood with two broken legs and a broken right arm.
    The Bosun shouting , "Don`t lie there, leap aloft again or you will lose your nerve"The Kroo Boys carried down the gangway and put on the back of a lorry and it took me to hospital,. I spent two days there and sent back when the ship was sailing up tp Lagos.
    We had an Alcoholic Doctor on board, the Mate asked him if I was fit to work on deck, he said "Yes nothing wrong with his left arm,"
    My legs and right arm were in Plaster, so I could not walk.

    The Sailors carried me out on deck and sat down, and with a chipping hammer in my left hand I had to chip the deck,.Then the Monsoon rain came down and all hands would run to the mess room and I was left sat in torrential rain.
    So I was glad to get back to Liverpool and pay off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Kong View Post
    On the TARKWA I was aloft on the mast table breaking out the Jumbo,.in PORT HARCOURT, NIGERIA,

    The Sailors carried me out on deck and sat down, and with a chipping hammer in my left hand I had to chip the deck,.Then the Monsoon rain came down and all hands would run to the mess room and I was left sat in torrential rain.
    So I was glad to get back to Liverpool and pay off.


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    That was rather mean! they didn't even give you an aspirin.
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    Had similar leaving Bombay Brian got a rusty nail in my foot which turned septic. couldn’t walk so they used to carry me on to the focsle to do all the lookouts during the hours of darkness and spent all the time sitting on the bollards and ringing the bells and shouting lights are bright and all’s well. Arriving back at Geraldton by this time it was starting to heal itself but was sent up to the hospital where the doctor put on his report fit to work, with the added comment he thought I was shirking. The doctor is not always right. JS. Had to change the spelling of septic as put it down as sceptic the first time , so must have already been thinking of that Mongrol of a doctor. JS
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    I had the misfortune of a chief engineer wanted to swing a big hammer when we were doing a unit. The classic when, I nod my head you hit it. He did, thankfully I had a safety Helmet on. So the blow only glanced the side of the Helmet hit my shoulder and then crushed and broke my thumb and 3 fingers.
    Thankfully we were in the states at the time so sorted. The agent stayed with me to sort out the paper work. He says to the doctor can you say on the report that he will be okay to remain onboard and will be fit for light duties , obviously following the wishes of the Master & C/Eng. The Doctor said what do you do on the ship engineer says I. Do you think you could do light duties ? Do you think I can do light duties? No okay sign the paper work and this clown can arrange a flight home for me before we sail. I flew home the next morning and was off work for 3 months. Stena /Northern marine services did the decent thing and kept me on pay. They asked if I was going to put a claim in. No as it was an accident and the C/Eng did not do it deliberately. Soft barsteward that I was should have as in the winter months my left shoulder gets as painful as and also my left hand is not a lot of use if I need to grip anything for a long period of time.

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    #8 In 1989 the shipowners in the North Sea Lewis their maximum liability was 30,000 pounds for death. How do I know , because a friend of mine was drowned and left a wife and two kids to support , and unless it was on a piece of elastic would not have lasted long. Reading in newspapers about other deaths in the oil industry one reads of colossal sums of money paid out , all I can say is good if it is true . But being the doubting Thomas I am I take all media statements with a pinch of salt. You should have gone along with a private action to receive more if that’s what you wanted . Cheers JS
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    Here in the Western suburbs of Melbourne there was a doctor known as Doctor how long.
    Workers would come from all over to see him.
    When someone he had never seen before walked in he would ask them, 'How long for' and would write them a sick note.

    If any of my staff ever came back with one from him they were shown the door.

    Did hear he was struck off for unethical behavior.
    Happy daze John in Oz.

    Life is too short to blend in.

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