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    Question Joe Buntin WW2 Arctic Convoys

    Hello,

    I’m looking for any information regarding my Grandfather, Joseph Buntin, a Merchant Navy man who served in the WW2 Arctic Convoys.
    He didn’t speak about it much, but I have documents to say he at one point served as a gunner on HMS London. I don’t know exactly when though.
    He only really told us 3 stories, all of them horrific.

    I’m a filmmaker and am currently writing a shirt animated film about the Arctic Convoys as well as writing and illustrating a children’s picture book of the same story.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Certainly, may be worth contacting the Russian Arctic Convoy Project.

    https://racmp.co.uk/

    Contact us:

    https://racmp.co.uk/contact/

    Keith.

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    Hi Keith, thanks for the response. I already have contacted RACP who advised I go to Kew to search for his records. Unfortunately that’s just not possible at the moment as I live in Edinburgh.

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    Can you please provide his place / date of birth etc.

    Touch wood a few here will assist.

    Keith.

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    Default Re: Joe Buntin WW2 Arctic Convoys

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith at Tregenna View Post
    Can you please provide his place / date of birth etc.

    Touch wood a few here will assist.

    Keith.
    Yes, no problem.

    D.O.B 1st June 1924
    Place, Mary Street, Glasgow, Scotland
    7AF748BD-38EB-4176-BBAD-569BC458D803.jpg

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    HMS LONDON - County-type Heavy Cruiser
    including Convoy Escort Movements


    https://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Ch...6CA-London.htm

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    First of all we need to establish whether he was Royal Navy or Merchant Navy and going by your post he was Royal Navy if he served on HMS London. These records are still held by the MOD and can be applied for by downloading application form at the following link.

    https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military...-elses-records
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    Appreciated.

    K.

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    He was Merchant Navy, it was quite a common practice for the RN to ask MN sailors to sign a T124x agreement so that they could be deployed on any ship.
    Last edited by Doc Vernon; 7th April 2021 at 06:35 AM.

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    I am well aware of the T124 Agreements, but in 20 years of research I have never known a Merchant Seamen be assigned to a Royal Navy Cruiser. The T124X & T124T Agreements covered auxiliary vessels.

    At the outbreak of the Second World War, it was evident that the Royal Navy would not be able to man all the auxiliary vessels that would serve with it. To deal with the shortfall in manpower, a number of officers and men of the Merchant Navy agreed to serve with the Royal Navy under the terms of a T.124 agreement, which made them subject to Naval discipline while generally retaining their Merchant Navy rates of pay and other conditions. The manning port established to administer these men was at Liverpool. More than 13,000 seamen served under these conditions in various types of auxiliary vessels, at first mainly in armed merchant cruisers, but also in armed boarding vessels, cable ships, rescue tugs, and others on special service.
    "Across the seas where the great waves grow, there are no fields for the poppies to grow, but its a place where Seamen sleep, died for their country, for you and for peace" (Billy McGee 2011)

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