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    Just a thought Shirley, you said he was mostly in the coastal trade, but looking at the names of ships some were world wide traders, perhaps some confusion maybe about the coastal aspect because the documents you have in hand probably show, just as an example

    Port of engagement Hull 19th April 1920
    Port of discharge Liverpool 15th August 1920

    In between those dates she may have been to USA, Canada, South America (or anywhere else in the world) and only the Voyage Cards should show this information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Cloherty View Post
    Just a thought Shirley, you said he was mostly in the coastal trade, but looking at the names of ships some were world wide traders, perhaps some confusion maybe about the coastal aspect because the documents you have in hand probably show, just as an example

    Port of engagement Hull 19th April 1920
    Port of discharge Liverpool 15th August 1920

    In between those dates she may have been to USA, Canada, South America (or anywhere else in the world) and only the Voyage Cards should show this information.
    Hi Ivan, this is a mistake on my part. I presumed this after seeing the words United Kingdom Ports typed underneath the names of the ships on the National Archive site. Thank you for clarifying this. I did think it was a bit odd that he may have just moved around the U.K. coast.

    Shirley

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    It took ten years for me to find a photo of a relative,
    hope all occurs more quickly for you.

    Never give up.

    Keith.

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    Well i see you have been a busy bee! LOL
    iI also as you have seen by my post found the one card, however the other with the Ships Numbers did not load ,there was an error on it>
    Anyway as you have uploaded this i can now have a look and see if i can add to your list of Ships
    Will take a wee bit of time but watch this space.
    Cheers

    There seems to be no CRS10 for him, i have looked but who knows it may be there somewhere?
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    Shirley
    The following are the ships that i have found on that list, there may however be an error or two as some of the Numbers are hard to read but i think i have them correct?
    Cheers

    105262 Roman Star Plus changed name 3 times after.
    119697 Mamari Ditto 2 Times after
    139088 Dart Did not have another change of name
    142423 Montezuma Plus changed name another four times after
    161369 Marylyn No Change in name
    125910 Siminole Ditto
    116669 St Louis Plus changed name once after
    160124 Baron Cochrane No change in name
    140586 Marquesa Ditto
    144605 Pungo Had one change in name later
    147950 Ingola ditto
    139256 Hindpool No changes in name
    161132 Luculus Had one cahge in name later

    155796 ?? Cannot find this one ,possibly the Number i cannot make out??

    Hope these help your listings think there are a few you already have listed Shirley??
    Cheers

    Do you have the Movement Cards for the Ships you note in your reply posting?
    This is just a part EG of one the Empire Snipe. Most all are now for a time available free at the Archives, so if interested jump in now!
    Cheers



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    If there is a possibility that there may be CRS10 Records for him Shirley then they would be in the following Series at the Archives. These you would have to go inj person and search through, but its a long shot.
    Cheers

    https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C10989696

    Reference: BT 382/1471
    Description: Rae J to Rafis A W
    Date: 1941 Jan 01 - 1946 Dec 31
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    All that do try to assist have differing methods which often,
    when combined do come up trumps, result wise.

    Touch wood the below will help.

    William Rae
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    Name:
    William Rae
    Event Type:
    Military Service
    Event Year Range:
    1921-1941
    Event Place:
    United Kingdom
    Birthplace:
    Lanarkshire
    Birth Year:
    1888.

    Keith.

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    Hi Doc,

    Thank you for the ship info and for the information about the movement cards. I've just come home from work and went straight onto the Archive site and downloaded them. Here is a bit of superstition for you; the reference number for the series at the Archives BT 382/1471 the last four digits is the day I was born (14) and the year (71). I laughed when I saw it, my fiance is not superstitious at all, but when he read it, he also pointed it out. Silly I know but I'm thinking it's a sign that my Great Grandfather wants to be found. Fingers crossed that I will be able to visit the records soon.

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith at Tregenna View Post
    All that do try to assist have differing methods which often,
    when combined do come up trumps, result wise.

    Touch wood the below will help.

    William Rae
    United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941

    Name:
    William Rae
    Event Type:
    Military Service
    Event Year Range:
    1921-1941
    Event Place:
    United Kingdom
    Birthplace:
    Lanarkshire
    Birth Year:
    1888.

    Keith.
    Hi Keith,

    Thank you for the info. At the moment I am trying everything and I keep rechecking my research steps in the hope that something springs up. Fingers crossed I get to visit the archives and I see the piece I so want; a photograph.

    Shirley

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    Never know Shirley
    Old Great Gandpa may well be looking down on you and feeling loved and pleased that you are searching for his details.
    Its a strange World out there!
    Good Luck ,and glad that you are on to the Movement Cards.

    Dont forget about the CRS10 Documents. they may well be in the Archives, jus need to pull them out of Cobwebs! LOL
    I have a feeling that they may well be there !!

    Keep up the good work it will be worth it all in the end i know,as i have been there and done all that !
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    Hi Shirley - Bit before my time at sea and I was a Chef - so if it was a large liner he served on we would rarely even meet up with crew members from other departments.
    But Good Luck in your research, if information can be found hopefully one of the friendly "Old Sea Dogs" on this site may Help! Best Wishes - Colin.

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