Hello & searching...

[Tracey Feisst]

Hi everyone,
Hope you are all doing well in whatever state of lockdown you might be in, wherever you are in the world.....

I am looking for information on my grandfather, specifically the ship that he came to NZ on, which may or may not be a merchant navy vessel.

Here's what I know:
William John Lyness
Born 19 May 1901 in Belfast - county Down
Enlisted on the HMS Vivid 1 in 1921
There's a number SS11693 on his enlistment record.

He came to NZ in the 1930s probably, and he came through the Suez canal. I'm pretty sure he was still in the merchant navy then.

Does anyone know how I can find out more information on his service record, and especially what ship he may have come to NZ on?

Thanks so much for your help!

[Ronnie Grant]

Hi Tracey from Havelock North. I can't help you personally but a lot of clued up people here can I'm sure.
I lived in Browns bay until about four years ago. RG

[Doc Vernon]

Is this anything t do with the Family ??
Just asking as trying to assist
Thanks

Marital status	-
Marital status as transcribed	-
Sex	Male
Age	-
Birth year	-
Birth place	Antrim
Occupation	-
Townland/Street	Badbury's Court
District electoral division	Lisburn
County	Antrim
Religion	Church of Irela
Literacy	Read and write
Image link	National Archives: Census of Ireland 1911
Family member first name(s)	Mary Ann, James, Isabella
Family member last name	Lyness
Record set	Ireland Census 1901
Category	Census, land & surveys
Subcategory	Census
Collections from	Ireland

[Doc Vernon]

Seems that there may be some info at the NZ Archives
That Number you quote looks like it relates to a File in the Archives SS11693

Dates of Holdings :		1883 - 1973

Location of Holdings :		Archives New Zealand, Head Office, Wellington

Former Archives Reference :		SS1
I am not sure as to how one goes about finding info but possibly you may have more luck https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz...riesHistory.do

Services are currently Suspended due to the Corona Virus so you will have to wait till all is back to normal.

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz...?code=18719654

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz...18719654#order


The National Archives in Kew London also should have lists from the UL to New Zealand by name.
This Office too is closed for research as far as i am aware till the Virus issue is Totally resolved

Outgoing passenger lists (1890-1960)

Search and download (charges apply) lists of passengers leaving from UK and Irish ports and travelling to places such as America, Canada, India, New Zealand and Australia between 1890 and 1960 (BT 27) on the findmypast.co.uk website.

You may already have this ??

GBM_ADM188_1105_0_0347 Lyness.jpg

In all my searches it seems to point that the Ship may well have been a New Zealand one in 1930 from London.
the one that i think it may have been is the RMS Rangitane


This is just off the bat but is there a possibility thaT HE iMMIGRATED EARLIER THAN YOU THINK??
bUT MAY WELL BE ANOTHER PERSON ??
William Lyness

New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists, 1839-1



Passenger from the United Kingdom to New Zealand

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Name:	William Lyness •
Event Type:	Immigration
Event Date:	21 Aug 1925 •
Event Place:	Wellington, New Zealand •
Event Place (Original):	Wellington (other ports also listed), New Zealand
Age:	24
Marital Status:	Single
Occupation:	Labourer
Birth Year (Estimated):	1901
Departure Date:	1925 •
Departure Place:	Southampton •
Departure Port:	Southampton
Arrival Port:	Wellington
Ship Name:	Hororata

https://natlib.govt.nz/records/23158...Bpath%5D=items

First name(s)	W
Last name	Lyness
Gender	Male
Age	24
Birth year	1901
Occupation	LABOURER
Departure year	1925
Departure day	16
Departure month	7
Departure port	Southampton
Destination port	Wellington
Destination	WELLINGTON
Country	New Zealand
Destination country	New Zealand
Ship name	Hororata
Ship official number	132757
Ship master's first name	E
Ship master's last name	HOLLAND
Shipping line	THE NEW ZEALAND SHIPPING COMPANY LIMITED
Ship destination port	NEW ZEALAND
Ship destination country	NEW ZEALAND
Ship square feet	15401
Ship registered tonnage	7184
Number of passengers	608
Record set	Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Category	Travel & migration
Subcategory	Passenger Lists
Collections from	Great Britain, England, Australasia

[Doc Vernon]

His full RN Record will be found here at a small cost just follow Link

https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/D7085267

Reference:	ADM 188/1105/11693
Description:	Name Lyness, William John Official Number: SS11693 Place of Birth: Belfast, Down Date of Birth: 19 May 1901
Date:	[1921]
Held by:	The National Archives, Kew
Former reference in its original department:	Vol No. SS11
Legal status:	Public Record(s)
Closure status:	Open Document, Open Description

Reference:	ADM 188/1105/11693
Description:	Name Lyness, William John Official Number: SS11693 Place of Birth: Belfast, Down Date of Birth: 19 May 1901
Date:	[1921]
Held by:	The National Archives, Kew
Former reference in its original department:	Vol No. SS11
Legal status:	Public Record(s)
Closure status:	Open Document, Open Description