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    I am hoping someone may be able to shed a little light on a couple of MN men please.
    They are both my Gt Uncles.
    1. Thomas Edward Evans b 22 July 1891 Bootle, Liverpool
    2. Dis A 1044953 – Fireman
    3. 1921 according to his record he was on the Pacuare 120707.
    I have record of him via the Bootle Electoral Rolls from Crosby Library when I visited there couple years back.
    Edward as he is known on Birth cert, 1901 Census and 1911 Census is living with his mother 1918 at 14 Springrove, Bootle. This was a family address till 1944. Beside his name in the electoral roll is M or N, this signifies Naval or Military. He appears to be at the address till 1921.
    I have searched records at Kew and have copies of his Merchant Navy record from Find My Past. Have never been able to track down the Pacuare crew list, or any other information on him after 1921.
    Any help as to where I might find more Merchant Navy records for him would be much appreciated.
    Thank you.


    Thomas Edward Evans b 3 December 1901. This Thomas Edward Evans appears to be using his brother’s name for whatever reason!!
    Have his Merchant Navy record from Find My Past also.
    Dis A no. 1123539
    I have a copy of the 1925 crew list for him for the SS Marquesa 140586 which I got at Kew. The address for him is listed as 14 Springrove Bootle, so I know it is the Brother of the above.
    The crew list has his previous ship as Warspite.
    I have looked this ship up and there were several and of course the Warspite was involved in the Battle of Jutland.
    Thomas was born Thomas Alfred Evans, his marriage certificate has him as Edward Thomas Evans!! Not sure that he knew who he was ((-:
    Again if anyone could help me here where I might find further information would be very helpful. Would love to find more about the Warspite as well.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this.

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    Hello Babara
    The info you have on both from FMP as you say ,what exactly do you have as you ask for more info!
    We would have to know what you have so there is no double take .
    What other info do you what on the Ship Warspite??
    I only ask as said as dont want to search in vain only to find that you have info.
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    Reference: BT 99/3740
    Description: Official Nos: 118804 Atlantic, 118812 Majestic, 118818 Mary Eliezer, 118822 Brilliant Star, 118859 Ethelwolf, 120705 Pacuare, 120709 Delta, 120712 Heroic, 120714 Graphic, 120716 Araguaya.
    Date: 1924
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Legal status: Public Record(s)
    Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
    Crew List of 1924 https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/C2481080

    120705 1120705 1905 PACUARE
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    Crew List for 1918
    120705 1120705 1905 PACUARE

    https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/C2480769

    Reference: BT 99/3429
    Description: Official Nos: 119861, 119891, 119896, 119898, 119956, 120103, 120512, 120574, 120609, 120661, 120665, 120671, 120676, 120677, 120682, 120684, 120691, 120694, 120698, 120701, 120702, 120705, 120706
    Date: 1918
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Legal status: Public Record(s)
    Language: English
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    Reference: BT 99/3803
    Description: Official Nos: 140582 Roquelle, 140583 Baronesa, 140584 Rexmore, 140585 Princesa, 140586 Marquesa, 140587 Governor, 140588 Vedic, 140589 Rimouski, 140590 Valemore, 140592 Pelter, 140593 Macharda, 140594 City of Baroda, 140595 Makalla
    Date: 1925
    This is the one you have for T E Evans Yes!


    I cannot find this one at Kew though ?? Below!

    Thomas Edward Evans b 3 December 1901. This Thomas Edward Evans appears to be using his brother’s name for whatever reason!!
    Have his Merchant Navy record from Find My Past also.
    Dis A no. 1123539 Possibly only at FMP
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    Barbara, It still exists Springwell road I live a stones throw from it.

    Property for sale in Springwell Road, Bootle.
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    Terry, it was Springrove. My GGrandmother lived their till 1944 when she died. Thank you for taking the time to look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Lead Ted View Post
    Barbara, It still exists Springwell road I live a stones throw from it.

    Property for sale in Springwell Road, Bootle.
    Terry, no stone throwing mate, be careful of the windows there LOL
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