Allan Line 1906 - 1937

Yes Keith that was my self on the Bootle site...I do have a bit of information about them...it's there Merchant Navy information that I wanted to know more about...I only found out by chance that Edith was still working as a stewardess in the late 1930's by getting on the 1939 site on FMP...I only met the lady once...I also found out on line that they had lost two children before 1911...and have managed to find the death certificate of one of the children...I was only 15 when we lost my mother we lived in Wales and her family which had mostly passed away lived in Liverpool..
Thanks for your help.

Thank you so much for that link ....I would love to think that I might of come across some sort of seamans pouch or pass with a photo and more information but maybe I am clutching at straws...thank you so much for your help...

A bit of a busy weekend ahead but.
will follow up on all ASAP.

Regards, Keith.

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Originally Posted by Marian Gra

Hi Thelma, Welcome to the site, found Birth, Christening & Marriage details of Edith which I'll post if you wish all from Ancestry. Com including the 1911 Census:

Name: Edith Rankin
[Edith Moody]
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Kirkdale, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bootle cum Linacre
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 48 Thornton Rd Bootle
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Home
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 22437
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Moody 73 Widow
Charles Moody 33 Son
Edith Rankin 29 Daughter
Nathan Rankin 32 Son in Law
Edith Smith 17 Granddaughter


Edith is listed as being at home, Nathan as a Sailor. Census also states they had been married for four years and had two children, unfortunately they had both died.

Will search under her maiden and married name for crew lists.


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Not in numerical order Thelma just as I find them:

Name: Edith Rankin
Arrival Date: 14 Jan 1932
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 48
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Duchess of Atholl
13 yrs Service
Rank Stewardess
Height 5'2'' Weight 126lbs...

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Thank you for this...Even if you where just a crew member you would be classed as a passenger is that right...

I should be home tomorrow
and will look at all again.

Keith.

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Originally Posted by Thelma Jones

Thank you for this...Even if you where just a crew member you would be classed as a passenger is that right...

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Rather get this wrong hopefully, another on site will possibly give the best / correct answer.

Keith.

Thelma
There is a distinction between crew members and staff on board liners.
Ship's crew are employed on a contract termed Articles and they are employed to take the ship from A to B. They are split into deck,engine and catering basically. The deck department take charge of navigating the ship between ports, the engine department look after all the propulsion and ancillary machinery whilst the catering department look after the feeding of all on board along with serving them meals and cleaning cabins etc. For this they receive a fixed monthly salary paid by the ships owner or manager. All these departments are also charged with the safety of the ship, it's crew and passengers.
Then there are what is termed staff on board. These are the likes of the entertainers, shop assistant, tour guides, hairdresser and spa workers etc. (Hotel services staff) and it is these worker's who will have most interaction with the passengers and are often mistaken for ships crew, but they will be employees of specialised agencies rather than the ship owner, so strictly speaking they are not ship's crew.
Rgds.
J.A.