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[Elizabeth Thakkar]

Hi Im Liz and I am researching my grandfather Herbert Daniel Humphries who was a radio operator on ships at various times in his life. He was born in 1886 and I know he was on the Penhale in 1949 when I was born as my parents had a telegram from him while on the ship to congratulate them on my birth. Also I cant find him in the 1911 census though I can find his heavily pregnant wife alone, so I imagine he is on a ship at this time. His number was 650560 if this may be useful.
Any pointers how I can continue will be appreciated. thanks

[Ron B Manderson]

Welcome to the site Elizabeth.
I'm sure you will receive some info soon
Ron the batcave

[Keith at Tregenna]

Hi Elizabeth,

Could you add parent names.

Regards, Keith.

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[Doc Vernon]

Record set	Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
Series	BT364
First name(s)	Herbert
Last name	Humphries
Event year	1918-41
Birth year	1886
Discharge number	650560
Birth place	Cardiff
Birth county/country	-
Birth date	03 Aug 1886
Card type	CR1
Archive	The National Archives
Date range	1918-1941
Category	Education & work
Subcategory	Merchant Navy & Maritime
Collections from	Great Britain, UK None

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OTTINGE

1744

1929

V1918

#999

Constants (South Wales) Ltd

GBR London

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So he was on the Lowland and the Dewsbury besides the one you mention. If he was any others they dont show here. ?? But i see a CRS154 was issued

CRS 154

Seaman to whom a British seaman’s identity card has been issued (or re-issued) I also see a CRS170 issued but not too sure on this possibly refers to a Second Discharge Book as well, taking into account his age then must have been about 66 or thereabouts. As above are CR1 Docs there may also still be CRS10 or CR10 Docs somewhere ?? This can only be verified if applying to see if they do exist ?? If there is a CRS10 for him then it should be found in the Following Series https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C10989062 Humphrey S R to Humphries H W Reference: BT 382/837 Description: Humphrey S R to Humphries H W Date: 1941 Jan 01 - 1946 Dec 31 Held by: The National Archives, Kew Former reference in its original department: 822 Legal status: Public Record(s) Closure status: Open Document, Open Description

Cheers hope this helps a bit.

[Doc Vernon]

The last Document here

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as it would not load on previous page (Site restricts to 5 Images)

So to Sum up looks like he joined up possibly at a Young age,then served for quite some time. Possibly then leaving for a spell before again Re Joining , as his Service was current in 1953. The reason for the Re Issue of Seamans ID Card etc.
This seems to tally with his Records so far.
There must have been quite a few more Ships he was on,but there is as yet no mention of others ,only what is shown.
I would hazard a guess and say that it would be an idea to contact the Souithampton Archives (Seamans Records) and ask them if his Original Records still exist there.
Other than that hopefully his CRS10 may come to light once you apply for it
Cheers


In 1939 lived at 35 Wingfield Road Cardiff Glamorganshire Wales with Wife and Son

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He was a Wireless Inspector for the Marconi Company at one time but when ??

Just of interest https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/waleshis...onnection.html

[Doc Vernon]

Hi Im Liz and I am researching my grandfather Herbert Daniel Humphries who was a radio operator on ships at various times in his life. He was born in 1886 and I know he was on the Penhale in 1949 when I was born as my parents had a telegram from him while on the ship to congratulate them on my birth. Also I cant find him in the 1911 census though I can find his heavily pregnant wife alone, so I imagine he is on a ship at this time. His number was 650560 if this may be useful.
Any pointers how I can continue will be appreciated. thanks

https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C13374817

Ship Penhale

Reference:	BT 110/1474/6
Description:	Ship: Penhale, Official Number: 146388. When built: 1924. Registry closed: 1954.
Date:	[1946-1955]
Held by:	The National Archives, Kew
Legal status:	Public Record(s)
Closure status:	Open Document, Open Description
Access conditions:	Open Immediately

[Doc Vernon]

Elizabeth
Can you please reply to this Thread ,so we know that you are getting this info.
I have sent a PM and a Private Email to you but so far no reply??
Thank You

https://www.merchant-navy.net/forum/...tml#post342654

[Hans Christian Andersen]

Hi Im Liz and I am researching my grandfather Herbert Daniel Humphries who was a radio operator on ships at various times in his life. He was born in 1886 and I know he was on the Penhale in 1949 when I was born as my parents had a telegram from him while on the ship to congratulate them on my birth. Also I cant find him in the 1911 census though I can find his heavily pregnant wife alone, so I imagine he is on a ship at this time. His number was 650560 if this may be useful.
Any pointers how I can continue will be appreciated. thanks

Dear Liz - we only really have access here to names of fallen Danish sailors who served on Allied ships in World War Two, given the name of your grandfather I am not sure whether he is in that category. The names we do have are found in the book of the fallen, kept at the memorial in Newcastle's St Nicholas Cathedral, I am not sure that we have a list of ship's names (and since the Penhale was clearly afloat in 1949, it is not likely that we have any useful information. Best wishes Hans Christian