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15th August 2018, 08:41 PM
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ref John Micheal Moores
Hi you all have been very helpful in the past in directing us to the national archives in trying to find information about john moores born 1928 , His daughter as been searching for him for the last 30 years she last saw her father in 1956 , We now he served in the Merchant Navy at the end of the war 1946 to 1949 and then in the late 50s to 60s we found his sailers pouch with a picture of him when he was in his early 20s it was the first photo is daughter had seen of him .i have just found that in 1947 when he was a cabin boy he was a inmate from a Borstal institution ? was this common practice in the war years for prisoners to serve in the forces .
the ships he served on were
Melito 137457 year 1946
MNRP
Pontfield 165780 year 1947
British Hope 1948 1603827
also Sara bowater in the 50s 60s
we think he ended up some were in U S A possibly New York .
thanks again for all your help and support .
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15th August 2018, 09:14 PM
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Welcome to the site Martin.
I sure some info will follow soon
Ron the batcave
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15th August 2018, 09:42 PM
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Adding a link for the past thread, we will need
to reread all and attempt to assist further.
http://www.merchant-navy.net/forum/r...tml#post298061
Regards,
Keith.
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15th August 2018, 11:49 PM
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Hi Martin,
Could you confirm place and date of birth and if any of the info
posted in the link to the past research was correct.
We will do all pos but need your help.
Anything new found since then would assist us.
Regards,
Keith.
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16th August 2018, 12:07 AM
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- Industrial or training schools (1857- 1933) – preventative, admitting children younger than 14 who were vagrant, neglected, disorderly, or at danger of being ‘corrupted’. They usually removed children from their local communities, provided moral instruction and training for a trade. There were also a number of day training schools in urban areas.
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16th August 2018, 01:21 AM
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Ref. To inmates from the Borstal establishments. My first official trip to sea in 1953. The ships compliment was made up with 4 ex Borstal deckboys, The Carpenter was just released from Durham prison, the Bosun was. An ex booth prize fighter who was punch drunk. A further 2 Estonians and one Latvian were amongst the rest of the crew. Who signed on in the Bristol Channel ports what and if they possessed criminal records I don’t know.. They were all as good as any other bunch of seamen of the day. The Borstal boys turned out to my knowledge very well. So yes it was common to have what somewould call unsavoury characters at times. Saying that I have also sailed in more recent times with a mate who had served 7 years in Gaol for GBH , on his wife of all people and the last I heard was back inside for a similar occurrence. A master who was on the other swing to me out here had also done 7 years for manslaughter. I found both characters were competent in their jobs and what they did in their private lives was not my problem. Cheers JWS.
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16th August 2018, 05:29 AM
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jesus john and you went back? jp
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16th August 2018, 08:59 AM
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##the wellesley training ship was such a place for young men who had one problem or another ...and they trained to go to sea ...the school if i remember correctly was in blyth ...we had many of these young men in a sea cadet type uniform join merchant ships in shields .....two i recall nicknames of black dog and warthog ......both new it all ..soon learned a big gob was not a good thing to have ......by the end of a 9 month trip they were both decent young men .....proud of what they were and willing to help .......regardless of one being broom showered for not washing at ist and the other nicking a hot dog ...stop me and by one in.... LA and riding up and down the jetty giving hot dogs away till it disappeared into the water ...can not remember any of 4 of them not being the better for being at sea in a merchant ship by the end of the trips...cappy
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16th August 2018, 09:08 AM
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#7. We all have our dark sides John, just that some can control better than others, anyhow in the first instance I had no choice, I was the owners property for 4 years. That was the years of puberty and was the time you were made into what you were to become good or bad was a toss of the coin. The term good or bad being only relative and doesn’t mean too much. The Wellesley was a couple of miles from me Cappy and didn’t know too much about it. There was someone on site some time ago who I think went there. Cheers JS
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16th August 2018, 09:29 AM
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I am proud that i went to sea as a deck boy and through to AB was a great growing up time, it was always said that the bottom of the rung was *peggy*, but there was one rung lower than that, and one which i did, and that was *peggies* peggy On the Stirling castle, i think there were10-12 deck boys, we had our own mess, there were seamen peggy, bosuns peggy, bridge boys etc, so i was peggies peggy, so i started right at the bottom, and i don't think we had a ships cat, kt
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