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    I am trying to find a photo of the Roseneath can any one help many thanks,

    Hugh


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    Name Official number Flag IMO
    ROSENEATH 20194 GBR
    Year built Date launched Date completed
    1857 05/10/1857
    Vessel type Vessel description
    Cargo Iron Sailing Vessel 3 Masted Ship
    Builder Yard Yard no
    Barclay & Curle, Glasgow 56


    Tonnage Length Breadth Depth Draft
    738 grt / 738 nrt / 187.0 ft 31.7 ft 19.4 ft
    Engine builder
    Engine detail


    First owner First port of register Registration date
    William Kidston & Sons, Glasgow Glasgow 03/11/1857
    Other names

    Subsequent owner and registration history
    Subscribers were Richard Kidston, Richard Kidston Jr & William Kidston of Glasgow.
    Vessel history
    By 1889 barque rigged, 758g, 735net.
    Remarks

    End year Fate / Status
    1899 Wrecked 02/02/1889
    Disposal Detail
    Wrecked near Portpatrick harbour. Left Dublin for Glasgow under tow of the Greenock tug DEFIANCE. Tow parted and she was driven ashore north of Castle Point.


    No photos available for this vessel

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    Hi Hugh, These two libraries may be able to help
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    The Mitchell Library North Street Glasgow G3 7DN
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    archives@glasgowlife.org.uk

    Fax: 0141 226 8452

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    The Kidston vessel Roseneath was a fixture in Halifax every spring and autumn from 1857 to 1882. Roseneath was also remarkable in that it was the first iron ship to sail into Halifax Harbour. It was a packet (a vessel which kept a regular schedule) of 739 tons, and would often spend a month in port unloading an extensive cargo of general merchandise. A typical cargo included 16 bundles of hoop iron, one bale of general merchandise, 68 winches, 393 bales of hemp yarn, 175 castings, 260 bundles of sheet iron, 113 bars of iron, 45 bales and a “quantity of junk.” Other cargo for an assortment of merchants included whiskey, wine and rum. Roseneath would return to Glasgow either via Sydney (where it would load coal destined
    to Montreal), Philadelphia (where it would load petroleum), or Savannah (where it would pick up a cargo of cotton).

    Excerpt from "The Stairs Fleet of Halifax: 1788-1926" pages 290 & 291

    http://www.cnrs-scrn.org/northern_ma...22_283-308.pdf
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    cause lost: ran aground (wrecked)
    date lost: 02/02/1889 [dd/mm/yyyy]
    casualties: 6rank: 682
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    builder:
    Barclay, Curle & Co. Ltd., Whiteinch (Glasgow)

    owner:
    Kidston J. P. & others, Glasgow

    captain: Robert A. Browne
    dist. homeport:
    9221.3 miles 325.8 326 NW

    Capture Roseneath.JPG

    This the only Pic I have come across
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    Update #2,

    Watt Library, Greenock Ship Index This index covers ship stories that appeared in newspapers in the Greenock and Port Glasgow area from the start of the nineteenth century onwards. It is provided to researchers as a reference resource to aid the searching of these historic publications which can be consulted, preferably by prior appointment, at the Watt Library, 9 Union Street, Greenock.

    The copyright in this index is owned by the Watt Library, Greenock / Inverclyde Council to whom application should be made if you wish to use the index for any purpose apart from personal research.

    Subject
    ROSENEATH

    Year
    1890

    Company Entry

    Murdoch & Murray Ltd., Port Glasgow steel screw steamer

    Publication page
    Greenock Telegraph 08.01.1890 page 2 ..........Hoping against hope there is a photograph Hugh


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    Just some trivia here
    THE SEA GALLANTRY MEDAL

    AN AWARD FOR CIVIL GALLANTRY AT SEA IN GREAT BRITAIN AND THE EMPIRE
    Awarded to

    W. MURRAY, commissioned boatman at Portpatrick (Barque Roseneath of Glasgow). (2.2.89)


    Merchant Mariners Muster: An accounting of financial transactions on voyages as noted in the collection of the Maine Maritime Museum.

    London, Feb. 5
    Wreck of the Roseneath
    The Roseneath, which was on the berth at Glasgow for Adelaide, was totally wrecked at Port Patrick. Mr Taylor, the mate, his wife and son, and three of the crew, were drowned.
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    You could also try this site as it shows that they have info on that Ship,but wether there would be a Pic I am not sure!
    If you Email them and give Details you may get some luck!??
    Cheers

    https://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/shipping.php

    https://www.mun.ca/mha/about.php
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    iI've just found this website and very interested whether a picture of the Roseneath has been traced as I note that your enquiry was over a year ago. The First Mate Duncan Taylor and his wife Marion (nee Campbell) and their son wee Peter were all drowned when the Roseneath was wrecked off Portpatrick. Duncan and Marion were my Great Grandparents. Duncan's and wee Peter's bodies were recovered and taken to Saltcoats for burial. There is no record of Marion Taylor (Campbell)'s body being found and her maiden surname "Campbell" has been handed down through my family. If anyone knows whether there is a picture of the Roseneath I would if possible like a copy for my Taylor book. Gloria Marley (nee Campbell Webster)

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    Hello Gloria, Welcome to the site. No photograph was found of the Roseneath that I am aware of and unfortunately the original poster did not confirm if he had checked our proposed sources. If you try those they may be helpful, please let us know how you get on.

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    OK Mr B.

    No promises,
    will take a look later,
    though one of the others on team:
    BMNOF+

    may do the biz first.

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    #4:
    ROSNEATH
    O.N. 97609. 1,779g. 1,123n. 260.0 x 37.1 x 17.2 feet.
    T. 3-cy. (19” - 32” & 52” – 39”) by W. Kemp, Glasgow, 175hp.
    8.1.1890: Launched by Murdoch & Murray & Co. (yard No.104) for the S.S. Co. Roseneath (Dixon & Harrison, managers) Glasgow. 2.1890: Completed. 1900: John R. Harrison, manager. 1896: Gow Harrison & Co., managers. 1909: Renamed EUGENIE. 1910: N. V. Mij van Zee e River Vaart (Herfurth & Co., managers) Rotterdam. 1913: Antwerpsche Zeevart Mij. Antwerp and renamed TONGRIER. 21.10.1913: Stranded Filsan, Osel Island, refloated and broken up at Antwerp.

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