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11th February 2025, 03:23 PM
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Re: Climate rears up again
Well it is not rocket science to work out what is going on concerning the worlds weather. The planet is always evolving but it is the rate of evolution is the problem.
To many people, to many cars & trucks, planes , to many cows , sheep pigs & chickens all adding methane.
I blame the Vegans and the Greens the amount of crap they produce eating or verbally is what is screwing things up.
Anyway Elon will find a solutition, time for another world pandemic especially aimed at those nations that always have the begging bowls out.
I am sure there is some one somewhere who has a cunning plan, one way of solving the investation of the hordes from those countries that the civilised people in the west & Russia bombed the s-hi-t out off.
A very tongue in cheek post
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12th February 2025, 05:33 AM
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Re: Climate rears up again
Bit today about the Paris Climate Agreement.
Apparently all nations as supposed to put in every two years an update of where they are.
Few have.
But NZ, Switzerland and a number of very small island nations have.
Their combined emissions are a staggering 0.2% of total global out put.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
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12th February 2025, 10:24 AM
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Re: Climate rears up again
Thing is John a leaking tap will fill a bucket 0.2%.
There was an article on some programme yesterday about how China are world leaders in Green technology, an example given was the number of EV SUV's China export around the world, I wonder how long it will be before they become the world leaders in Hydrogen powered cars.
China is smart I have seen how they do things while in Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Shanghia.
The first generation LNG Gas Carriers class of 6 ships were supposed to have French Cryo Star Gas compressors. Well the first three did the next three had a chinese version copied from Cryo Star.
They do the same in the car industry take a look at the competition and in many cases improve on the design.
An old lesson learnt from the Japanese no doubt. Japan after the war built British cars under licence for years. Then they took a serious look at UK built cars and thought we can do better than that, all you need to do is look at what people are driving these days.
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12th February 2025, 11:07 AM
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Re: Climate rears up again
[QUOTE=James Curry;438849
An old lesson learnt from the Japanese no doubt. Japan after the war built British cars under licence for years. Then they took a serious look at UK built cars and thought we can do better than that, all you need to do is look at what people are driving these days.[/QUOTE]
I read an article some years ago in a technical periodical, with a Chinese Trade Delegate being interviewed and was asked 'How much do you spend on Design and Research' he replied quite openly 'Nothing! the West gives us their plans to build their equipment, we improve on it when building it for ourselves'
A good example is the Chinese dredgers building the islands in the South China Sea, I read in a Dredging magazine that they out perform the dredgers the Chinese built for the Dutch. They build islands complete with runways and military establishments whilst our people in the west are still discussing planning permissions
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12th February 2025, 12:31 PM
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Re: Climate rears up again
Very true Ivan, The Japs did similar but they sell the better product abroad. I never forget my cousin who was brought up in Hong Kong. He was sent to Boarding school in England HMS Worcester. He would come and stay with us on the odd occasion. He had a cracking watch a Seiko, always remember my dad looking at it , Um!!!Japanese looks nice but will never last.
I still have a Seiko watch upstairs I bought first time I went to Honk Kong. Wear it now and again still working as I have had it cleaned a few times. The jewller wants to buy it. Why would he want a watch I bought 56 years ago. Automatic Sekio Prospex SPB 383. I still have the Box and the Guarantee. Think I will hang on to it, my lad keeps asking to make sure it goes to a good home lol.
Drifting of the topic, wish someone would find the thermostat and turn it up a bit here in the UK, still pretty cold here .
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12th February 2025, 12:48 PM
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Re: Climate rears up again
Still have the binoculars I purchased in Yokohama in 1959, case a bit battered but binocs fine, a thousand percent more useful than the beer bottles supplied by shipowner. Could never understand the logic of some owners who spend millions building the ship and then give the navigators the cheapest aids to safely navigate it with. Probably the superintendents, some of whom I experienced had the attitude, I never had it when at sea, you're not getting it. When I reached that dizzying height (not all its cracked up to be) I dispensed with that attitude and listened and discussed requirements with the requestee, had many a fight with directors (none who had been to sea) to get the seafarer what was needed, and at times in excess of then current regulations, kept me busy with 22 vessels in one company.
A senior Supt, who I had many a tussle with, had the attitude I never had it, why should you, he even advised the shipowner that it was a waste of money putting Gyro compasses aboard a series of five new buildings (late 1960's) that would be trading in high north latitudes and above the Cape to Murmansk and other such ports, we had a great falling out over that, especially as I won that battle, together with having True Motion radar fitted instead of Relative Display, you can't always blame the owner.
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12th February 2025, 01:04 PM
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Remember similar Ivan but another case was the sight reduction tables which were brought out during the the war by the Americans for their air navigators for the likes of their flying fortresses. These could be utilised by surface vessels and could work out 5 stars in half the time of the old way. Would they supply ? would they hell ! I went and bought my own in the finish , they were only a couple of quid but well worth it it. As you know the correction for dip wasn’t necessary in an aircraft ( the angular depression of the visible horizon below the sensible horizon ) but most of the other corrections were already interpreted for you. So by using these tables it saved you about 45 minutes on working out 5 stars so were only 15 miles ahead of your worked our position instead of 30 miles on a 15 knot ship. The ignorance of some shipping office staff amazed me.Cheers JS
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13th February 2025, 05:41 AM
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Re: Climate rears up again
China will in the end do what they want and to hell with the rest of us.
But many questions are now being asked here in Oz about the rise of renewables.
From the cost of building and maintaining to the destruction of parts of the planet with all the new mines.
The destruction of good farming land to house wind farms, the builders of which have little or no concern for the environment.
The damage done by them to nature, birds killed noise factor, effect on local climate from change of wind velocity where they are.
The ever rising price of electricity brought about by the need to rebuild the grid and the overall cost of them.
Our farmers here in Oz in some parts earn more in rent of their land where the wind farms are than from what they produce.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
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13th February 2025, 10:50 AM
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Re: Climate rears up again

Originally Posted by
j.sabourn
Remember similar Ivan but another case was the sight reduction tables which were brought out during the the war by the Americans for their air navigators for the likes of their flying fortresses. These could be utilised by surface vessels and could work out 5 stars in half the time of the old way. Would they supply ? would they hell ! I went and bought my own in the finish , they were only a couple of quid but well worth it it. As you know the correction for dip wasn’t necessary in an aircraft ( the angular depression of the visible horizon below the sensible horizon ) but most of the other corrections were already interpreted for you. So by using these tables it saved you about 45 minutes on working out 5 stars so were only 15 miles ahead of your worked our position instead of 30 miles on a 15 knot ship. The ignorance of some shipping office staff amazed me.Cheers JS
Yes , they were very good those sight reduction tables. You could even preset the sextant to the bearing and azimuth of the selected stars. The books were pretty
cumbersom if I remember correctly .
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13th February 2025, 11:16 AM
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The ever rising price of electricity brought about by the need to rebuild the grid and the overall cost of them.
Our farmers here in Oz in some parts earn more in rent of their land where the wind farms are than from what they produce.[/QUOTE]
John
S Sounds a bit like the situation we have here in the u.k. we have a government minister who is hell bent on net zero, wanting to build wind farms and solar cells farms over huge areas of much needed farm land. All of these need huge battery storage bank's for when doesn't blow or the sun don't shine, conditions that appear to happen on a regular basis here.
In addition our government are hell bent on A.I, now I have no idea about how this A.I thingy works or even what it actually does but I understand it requires huge data centers that consume vast amounts of electricity along with cooling water. So where is all that electricity coming from given that the net zero mandate means that oil and gas use for electricity generation is being phased out.?
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