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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Tindell View Post
    Must tell of my experience only yesterday, my wife went in for day surgery with a general anaesthetic , she had had a pre med, blood test, signed consent forms , saw the surgeon who issued a new prescription, this was 5 days pervious to the op. I drove my wife in to the hospital at 0645, and came home. the phone rang as soon as i got in, to come and pick her up. she was not on the list to be done, total mystery. later had a phone call from the omissions office, apologies, she had been deleted from the list for that day by accident. Bloody disgrace
    If the NHS was a business as such it wold have gone bust years ago ......it is a bottomless pit off unorganised chaos.....held togther by a few so dedicated they should be martyed....R683532

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    The NHS certainly does need a dose of sorting out!!! but wasting money on it by not paying Nurses & Junior Doctors a liveable wage so the short fall in Nurses & Junior Doctors is resolved by employing agency staff.

    Agency pay rates are capped at 55% above what a normal employee would receive.

    But the BBC investigation found for nearly nine in 10 agency shifts for doctors and dentists, and four in 10 for nurses the caps were exceeded last year.

    NHS bosses can only do this if there is a significant risk to patient safety.

    Might be worth checking some of these NHS BOSSES off shore bank accounts

    The rise in 2021-22 comes after the NHS had appeared to get on top of the use of agency work following a government crackdown in 2015-16 when the cap was introduced.
    So who is to blame? Agency workers or the government?

    For years the Government has through back door means been selling off the NHS. They want people to take out private health insurance.

    I had BUPA for years funded by employers and contractors while working. But even though I had BUPA cover always in the BUPA contract was the clause existing medical conditions are not covered by this insurance. When I retired BUPA sent me my new contract. £700 a month bugger that for a game of soldiers. Yes there are other health care providers but still the old existing medical conditions are not covered in a lot of cases. So anything to do with Cardio and Arthritis for me are not covered. That is unless you are prepared an increased premium.
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    Of course Tony Blair and Gordon Brown would never have dreamt of using private health care. Whoops the low flying pig nearly got me. There's is no evidence of the Conservatives privatising the NHS except in the febrile mind of socialists and their followers.
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    Vic you must be one of the few in the UK who believes the NHS is NOT being sold by the government no matter be it Conservative or Labour. But why do you usually bring up Blair & Brown. These guys are yesterdays men and have been for at least the past 13 years since they were in power.
    Try and get an NHS dentist!! Look at waiting lists for instance. I am due to see a Cardioligst earlist appointment I can get is September/October. My GP made an Urgent referral to my local Hospital. She said I can make an appointment for you to go private. So £200 lighter in the pocket and again £150 for follow up appointment. Told I need Mitral valve repair. So when and were will this procedure take place. He can do it within 6 weeks at my local NHS hospital Arrowe Park Wirral. Stumbling block is the cost about £35,000. Now why can it be done in an NHS in 6 weeks for £35000 and cannot even see a cardioligst on the NHS until September /October, Oh it will be the same Cardioligist doing the Operation be it private or on the NHS.

    TORY MPs are receiving large donations and earning thousands of pounds from links to the private health sector, the Sunday National can reveal.


    An investigation has found numerous examples of Conservative MPs receiving donations or work connected with private healthcare firms, pharmaceutical companies and social care providers.

    Details of the funding have been obtained from declarations on the House of Commons Register of Members’ Financial Interests.

    MPs are not allowed to act as “paid advocates” and have to declare their financial interests on the register.

    No doubt you will say bias reporting !!!

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...ealth-29017569

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Curry View Post
    . But why do you usually bring up Blair & Brown.

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    Why not, Margaret Thatcher gets blamed for things that have happened since she died, mind you they are probably the same people who believe that Churchill was a German in WWII

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    well he was half American and his father died of syphilis Ivan. JS

    Reminds me of that joke the new father goes to see his newborn son, the nurse brings him out all swaddled up. is there anything you want doing for him asks the nurse , yes he says circumsize him, he then takes a bottle of gin out of his pocket and sticks it in the babies mouth, the nurse is aghast and calls for a doctor and assistance . In the meantime the father gives the newborn baby a clip on the ear. The doctor arrives and says to the father Sir you can’t treat your son like that ! The father says he’s my son and I’m making sure he’s just like me , a belly full of booze ,a bad head and a sore nudger.
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    #16 Makes me wonder at times , the repertoire we had at an early age. I was going on for 9 years of age at wars end , but already was going around singing ....Hitler he only had one ball, Goering had two but they were small, Himmler was somewhat similar , but poor old Goebells had no balls at all. I knew I was not singing about Wimbledon as well. JS
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    Good to see we are all in agreement on this topic. No one so far can find an example of success or benefits of Brexit.

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    I can’t say too much as don’t live there , but if did would be sighing with relief and only wishing the English Channel was a couple of hundred miles wider. Europe does nothing for me and never will . JS

    I have visions yet of seeing it as another battlefield when some stupid politician makes the wrong judgement . JS
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    Blair and Brown built clinics run by companies such as Circle, although treatment was paid for by NHS.
    Circle centre was such a success in Nottingham that the Unions took umbrage and forced the Trust to take under their umbrella.
    Unless it has changed you could in past demand be treated at a private hospital if there was an undue delay in getting seen to.

    Louis, failings (apparent) of NHS are nothing to with leaving the EU.
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    PS, James, my Eldest son was being treated for a problem at the QMC, Nottingham. Consultant gave him a choice be treated privately at NHS cost or wait for NHS.
    He chose the former.
    So it's worth asking your consult can you be treated privately and paid for by NHS.
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