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    #8 What you are saying John is qiute correct the figures on the pylon are the absolute truth of the height of the water. The only other way but not as accurate is with a hand lead. When a ship is seeking the amount of water in a port they will work it out with tide tables and interpolate between high and low waters , I’m sure if I was entering port and saw the draft figures on the quayside were less than my arithmetic you wouldn’t catch me going alongside at that moment in time. JS
    The only other way of the actual figures giving you a wrong figure for the actual amount of water there would be a silting on the bottom, the reason why jetties and quays should be regularly dredged . JS
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    Just looked at your weather forecast Jon, looks like you might need to use the chin strap on your hat, Cat 5 apparently.
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    Old fella in Africa once said , "They are taking all that oil out of the earth, which helps to grease the axle, in time the axle will be so dry it will explode.
    I wonder if anyone has heard of the type of weather now striking the US; in old Indian folklore?
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    #12 By 0900 WST it was down to a category 3. One of the jobs for seafarers on this coast was during the Cyclone season here if home on leave was to be on stand by for any expected cyclones. The drill was then to fly up to the NW area for the manning of any laid up Shipping and take to sea out of the expected track of the cyclone , also all non essential manning on rigs and platforms was sent ashore and replaced by seamen. Cyclone season on this side is November to April normally. The expected track of a cyclone if coming from the East is to run down the coast before swinging in to cross the coast line where it starts to dissipate within hours . Brings in the rain which,most farmers are grateful for. Sometimes rarely if coming from the east will continue their westward journey and blow themselves out in the wastes of the Indian Ocean. They can cause havoc offshore and it is every shipmasters dream to get into the safe quadrant which is the same quadrant you stick the penicillin needle into , the upper starboard quadrant in the starboard buttock furthest away from the centre, with the centre moving away from you.
    You do treat Cyclones with respect, seamen Don’t have to be told a second time if they have ever been close to one. JS
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    Some years ago Port Phillip bay was dredged at the heads to allow for larger ships to enter Port Melbourne.

    Prior to the dredge a group of locals, well over 2,000, lead by a local scientist said that if the dredging went ahead Melbourne would be flooded.
    Still waiting fellas!!!!
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    John S.
    After seeing the state of that building that was smashed, I wonder why they build square buildings in that area, a more suitable design would be like a clam or the opera sails with the pointy end down into the ground facing the sea, the wind would not then get under and lift the roof off.
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    On the news yesterday where the islanders are complaining that their graveyards are being flooded with the rising seas plus the islands are getting smaller but at least the pylons in Melbourne show that this must be a bloody lie. Would really like to be able to put some of into cold storage to be revived in thirty years time just to find out which of us is the fecking idiot. Still of the view that if I have it wrong that at least the next generation would end up with a cleaner more healthy world than the one we stuffed up. But hey that would be an end to all these crack theories from both sides of the argument
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    James, in 1999 the Alps of Victoria and NSW saw almost no snow.
    A Professor of environmental studies said this was the result of global warming and we would never see snow there again.
    Each year since snow levels have increases to the point where last year saw the biggest ever recorded dump od snow.

    We have had a three year La Nimna effect on our weather, two often occurs but three is rare.
    Caused by a cooling of the Southern Ocean, water levels contract.

    Northern Queensland is tropical, southern part sub tropical and the rains came a bit earlier than normal and heavier.
    It flows to rivers which in turn flow down to NSW and Victoria, the Murinbidgee, Campaspe and Murray rivers.
    At the same time the alps melt began adding water to the rivers.

    The result was sever flooding in many parts of Queensland, NSW and Victoria.

    The usual cry of 'climate change' went up.
    No one of that lot were able to understand the La Nina effect on weather patterns.

    The floods they cried are new records.......Wrong.

    In Euchca/ Moama the border between NSW and Victoria there is a marker post which began in 1855.
    It shows all the high water levels of records, those of last year were some 35 cm below the record levels of 1993 and 1979.
    One of the main problems causing the flooding, flood plains.
    Much of Eastern Australia is below sea level, so high rain fall often sees floods.

    So nothing new here apart from the cry from uninformed and uneducated in history of the nation.

    The Professor has been very quiet of late.
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    John it is all the fault of the those naughty spanish children La Nina El Nino.

    https://www.neefusa.org/weather-and-...t-s-difference

    Together, El Niņo and La Niņa are part of a natural cycle that can significantly impact not only global weather, climate, and ocean conditions but also food production, human health, and water supply. These systems typically last about one to two years, with the cycle alternating every three to seven years.

    As we near the tail-end of multiple El Niņo years, what can we expect for the upcoming La Niņa winter? According to NOAA’s winter forecast, the US will experience warmer, drier conditions across the Southeast, and cooler, wetter conditions in the North. Also, NOAA’s Climate Prediction Center is closely monitoring persistent drought, since nearly half of the continental US is experiencing drier-than-normal conditions.

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    Some years ago there were a number of paddocks I would pass on my way to work.
    In winter it was not uncommon to see a very hard frost on them, so hard it looked at times like snow.

    But those days are gone.

    Speaking with a mate of mine who spent some 42 years in the local met office.

    Those paddocks now are home to some 500 houses, small shopping center, schools and community centers.

    Why no more frost, nothing to do with climate change or global warming.

    This is brought about by an environmental change.
    The houses, concrete, bitumen, side walks all add to a heat bank, reflection, and deflection.
    The way the houses are stood causes at times wind tunnels.

    So no more frost

    But this is happening across the globe where man is destroying the environment with all the new building.
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