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9th October 2020, 09:02 AM
#41
Re: French stuff
Hi Keith
I now live on the Boltonistan side of town so no representatives
MP . or Town Councillors. a once Des Res. now taken over
My MP is an immigrant from Pakistan,.
So these people have no interest or knowledge in our WW2. only in our benefit system.
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9th October 2020, 09:50 AM
#42
Re: French stuff
Try an e.mail to your mayor: mayorsoffice@bolton.gov.uk
Seems interested in WW2.
Mayor of Bolton, Cllr Linda Thomas. Earlier this year - https://www.bolton.gov.uk/news/artic...cond-world-war
If I was local, would not have missed this opportunity.
K.
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9th October 2020, 09:59 AM
#43
Re: French stuff
Victoria
You would not recognise Calais ferry port these days. The whole area is surrounded by high fencing and entrance is strictly controlled. This is an attempt to prevent illegals sneaking aboard in trucks etc.
I used to load acid in Calais port which was just outside the ferry port in a harbour entered via a lock. As it was an open berth we had to have extra gangway watch and pre departure stowaway search as their were gangs of illegals wandering around the town. Some of them attempted to jump on board as we were actually going through the lock.
There were still some decent bars/cafes around the old harbour/marina.
Rgds
J.A.
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9th October 2020, 10:33 AM
#44
Re: French stuff
Keith,
Last Merchant Navy Day there was NO Red Ensine over the Town Hall
first time since I campaigned for in 2000, I wrote to HER, , her response No we have it on Memorial Day November 11.
Even tho` I told her that two young Bolton lads, ....Billy Dempster, age 15 , and Joe Farnworth age 17, were killed on the Atlantic Convoys, and their families had no graves to place flowers.
She is more interested in her Hair Dressing business,.
Never ever trust a politician. The only qualification they need is the ability to tell lies without laughing/
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9th October 2020, 10:53 AM
#45
Re: French stuff
This is getting off the thread now, the Mayor is changed every year,
Merchant Navy Day was different this year for many but, individuals need
to work together to get much done. I advise and assist in many ways
this way and else where and get much done, it does take more than
a letter.
K.
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9th October 2020, 01:57 PM
#46
Re: French stuff
Hi Keith
with all your connections to the Labour Party may I suggest that you ask them if they know what happened to all the money that was confiscated, whose pocket did it end up in, instead of being given to the widows and orphans of the British Seamen, including Welsh Seamen of the crew of the Cardiff Registered ship SS ALLENDE that was sunk by the french and crew taken into a PoW Camp where some died due to BAD Treatment by the french and others died in Timbuktu after a long forced march rough jungle, swamps and desert,
Sincerely
Brian
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9th October 2020, 02:15 PM
#47
Re: French stuff
Sorry, now totally lost, I have not mentioned politics at all. If you would like help
try a new post in appeals and am certain some may assist with the best advice.
RE: SS ALLENDE that was sunk by the french - Allende was torpedoed and sunk by U-68. 17 Mar, 1942.
About the end of June the crew of the ALLENDE were repatriated.
Keith.
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Last edited by Keith at Tregenna; 9th October 2020 at 03:57 PM.
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10th October 2020, 04:46 AM
#48
Re: French stuff
Originally Posted by
Captain Kong
Keith,
Last Merchant Navy Day there was NO Red Ensine over the Town Hall
first time since I campaigned for in 2000, I wrote to HER, , her response No we have it on Memorial Day November 11.
Even tho` I told her that two young Bolton lads, ....Billy Dempster, age 15 , and Joe Farnworth age 17, were killed on the Atlantic Convoys, and their families had no graves to place flowers.
She is more interested in her Hair Dressing business,.
Never ever trust a politician. The only qualification they need is the ability to tell lies without laughing/
Brian, you want to see the one we have here in charge in Melbourne, the biggest Labor clown and dictator you will ever see, but then again I do not expect much better from any labor man.
Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
John Strange R737787
World Traveller
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10th October 2020, 10:00 AM
#49
Re: French stuff
Originally Posted by
Des Taff Jenkins
Hi Fouro .
Thanks for that post, Ivan had me going there, as the night before my wife asked me who a certain singer was and it took me two hours and a lay down to remember it was George Formby that she wanted.
As for the French and the Scots getting on, the French have never forgot the help you gave sweet Bonny Prince Charley, and have had that relationship since.
Des
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Ivan.
I forgive you mate, read the post to Fouro, it just made me question my memory cell
Des
The Auld Alliance between Scotland and France.
Click on html to read about it.
Joan of Arc - Maid of Heaven - Joan of Arc Scots Connection
Regards from
Fouro.
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10th October 2020, 11:14 AM
#50
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Hi Keith, Reost 49
Read ...A PEOPLES WAR.. SS ALLENDE. PARTS 1 AND 2
IN GOOG;LE.
some men of the ALLENDE died in captivity, two , after being marches through jungles, swamps and desert died in TIMBUKTU.
They were captured by the french and kept in terrible conditions .
From 17 March 1941 to16 December 1942 , then taken to the border of Sierra Leone and released. One year and Nine Months
below is an exert from the article.....
Allende
On September 26, 1941, the whole crew, except those in hospital in Conakry, were ordered out of the camp and into trucks. With a heavily armed guard they were escorted into the jungle, and they started to think that they were to be shot, but it turned out that they were being taken to Conakry railway station. Here they were put on board a train, and a journey began to an unknown destination that lasted until October 7, 1941, when they arrived, they discovered in the legendary city of Timbuctoo. Conditions in Conakry had been awful, but conditions in Timbuctoo were even worse. They remained in Timbuctoo, being kept under really poor conditions until August 5, 1942, when they were once more embarked upon a journey with unknown destination. On August 24, 1942, they arrived at a camp set up in an agricultural college just outside Kankan. Here they remained until December 14, 1942, when they began their journey of repatriation, arriving at Freetown on December 18, 1942. From Freetown they sailed back to the Clyde arriving on January 15, 1943. Peter de Neumann was married on February 13, 1943, having attended his investiture two days previously. After some survivors’ leave, he returned to sea.
The crew of the CRITON received far worse treatment than any other British prisoners of the Vichy French, and was imprisoned longer than other MN prisoners in West Africa. After the war the French government made an ex gratia payment to the British government in compensation, but did not apologise. To add insult to injury, the British Labour government of the day kept the money, and the exceedingly poor treatment of the crew of the CRITON conveniently forgotten. Like the Japanese, the Vichy French withheld medicines, Red Cross parcels, clothing and footwear, leaving them rotting in the sun.
Captain Gerald Dobeson, CRITON's Master, received a King's Commendation for Brave Conduct in June 1943.
CRITON crew who died:
William Freeman - 19 November 1942.
Douglas Hyland - 16 January 1943.
Jack Savage - 10 September 1941.
William T. Williams (Striker) - 20 August 1942.
[B][B]The following two from ALLENDE died and are buried in Timbuctoo. They were briefly imprisoned with CRITON's crew following ALLENDE's loss on 17 March 1941/B]:
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John Graham - 2 May 1941. Allende
William Soutter - 28 May 1941. Allende
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