Knights Templars

Hi John.
I don't think that Bishops mind losing the Mitre, but will fight tooth and nail to keep the Dress.
Cheers Des

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Originally Posted by Louis the fly

I started this post because of my interest in the Templars , how they gained their knowledge and skills. Having read from many sources and studies I have found the answer. They stole their knowledge and skills mainly from the Arabs and Jews. I thought the Templars were a superior band of brothers , I was completely wrong. They were the ancient form of todays ISIS terrorists , slaughtering men , women and children , destroying cultures and stealing all the wealth they found. This wealth gave them power over kings and rulers , lending money to them put them forever in their debt.

It is said history repeats itself , this is true . Move on now to the next project.

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Not quite the believed: After Christian armies in 1099 captured Jerusalem from ****** control during the Crusades, groups of pilgrims from across Western Europe started visiting the Holy Land. Many of them, however, were robbed and killed as they crossed through ******-controlled territories during their journey.

Around 1118, a French knight named Hugues de Payens created a military order along with eight relatives and acquaintances, calling it the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and the Temple of Solomon – later known simply as the Knights Templar.
With the support of Baldwin II, the ruler of Jerusalem, they set up headquarters on that city’s sacred Temple Mount – from which they took their name – and pledged to protect Christian visitors to Jerusalem.

Interesting.

K.

Jim one of the present day prohibitions against new members into freemasonry is that they have no police record. As I said I am a comparative newcomer to Masonic history but would imagine that goes back a long way. Any Freemason only knows about freemasonry up to the level he is at. So that means anyone not a Freemason in theory knows nowt , and a master mason knows about the craft lodge only up to that standard. Other orders talked about on here he will not know unless joins and advances through that order. So what you read on here unless from a Freemason is only hearsay . The supposed religious zealot posing as a would be Billy Graham pushing pamphlets around about freemasonry being evil is probably why Freemasons don’t speak too much about it. Perhaps some of the ancient punishments as Rob said in an early post, he maybe thinks still applies , His brain like others of different faiths has never got past the 14th. Century. JS....There you are Jim , Keith probably got that off google , so no big mystery there. No big Expose like the press and media wpuld have you believe. The initial ones were a band of warrior monks and gave their help to pilgrims to the Holy Lands. Hugo de Payens was later tortured and murdered on behalf of the pope and King Philip of France for supposed heresy. A lot of the Templars who escaped finished up in Scotland, and is suspected they assisted Robert the Bruce in his battles against the English. Cheers JS

#81... The miter might have got its name from the saying miter been a better Christian if had been a mason instead. At least would of had a hand in building the cathedral rather than destroying its good name. JS

Have not posted a reply on this ,as I thought when I saw the Title it was "The Saint" At Night Series! LOL
sorry Lads could not resist! (Simon Templar )

It's funny how when people don't know something their best answer is to make up a story about it and an awful lot I've read about craft and arch masonry is so unbelievably created without any relationship to craft or Arch so I think it's written buy a fairytale writer I think if you want to know the best way is to ask somebody that knows

John, here in Victoria we have 'Do Not Knock' stickers to go on the front door.
Until they came out about four years ago every house was bombarded with sellers of all types.

Now the only ones still allowed to knock are charities.
But they stikers do work, since we put ours up no sign of the mother in law.

#86... Rob when I was in the chair of the craft. I had a new joiner. A white Australian married to an oriental who was a Bhuddist, that’s no problem whatsoever. After putting him through his first degree he seemed an ideal candidate. However he came up to me later and said he wasn’t going any further as could not take any obligations to Grand Lodge. I said fair enough, and he left. Members of the Lodge then got on at me for not talking him out of his would be commitments as were just tokens. My attitude was if you don’t want to be a mason no talking in the world is going to change that and he was released and his name scrubbed from the role. Freemasonry is purely voluntary but like every other organisation has its rules, this site is a good example of that, the new joiner I had would never have been an asset he would have turned into a liability. The same as any walk of life if your not happy and there are other options then take them. I do not know the rules governing Buddhism but they were acceptable. To freemasonry in general, maybe some rule I didn’t know about. Cheers JS

John I’m sure your mother in law is a very nice lady, and when you were courting her daughter and she said stop that ! Mother wouldn’t like it, you should have given the stock answer,... your mothers not getting it !.

What this thread proves is there are many versions of history. Much of it comes from stories passed from mouth to mouth then written down by scribes sometimes many years after an event.
The stories are accepted as fact by historians who in turn pass the supposed facts on to us. I have read from as many sources as possible and come to my own conclusions with regard to the Templars , others of course will disagree.