Ukraine

[Des Taff Jenkins]

John.
Maybe he can put them all on stage as comedians, with the Zombi being the surprize walk on . and there you go we all thought that Trump was an idiot.
Des

[j.sabourn]

Trumps biggest problem was he tried to talk to everyone at the same time no matter what level of intelligence they had ,and so appeared himself to be devoid of an education himself. He certainly talked in a way that no one could misinterpret , unless they had their head in the clouds . Cheers JS

[Doc Vernon]

With all the talk that he goes on with, it is highly possible that he may still get into Presidency again at some time ??? Or is he Pipe Dreaming!
Cheers

But he sure can talk the talk, dont know if can walk the walk though!

[Doc Vernon]

Dont know what going on , as i am sure no one else does either at this point, but seems to me that The Ruskies are withdrawing Troops in mass! So and i hope that i may have been correct in my personal thoughts , but feel that this was and still is a massive Ploy, to show an Arm of strength and possibly nothing more ??
Time will tell!

[j.sabourn]

Russia has probably achieved what they set out to do Vernon and keep the Ukraine from joining NATO which was formed all those years ago to resist Russia in any ideas it had on Europe . Russia has developed along its own lines of achievement despite the proganda it has had laid at its door and its own propaganda it has laid at other doors, so no one knows the real truth. The embargo on Cuba in the 60s was the US and Russia playing tit for tat. Then Russia backed down , today they see themselves as not being able to back down and don’t want nato troops on their border. So more than likely they have the written concessions that , that it is not going to happen. That to me would be the only way out of this stalemate , but no one in the west is going to admit to this. The PM of the Ukraine has already said in so many words he is willing. The scarpering of some of his politicians shows you the weakness of the whole country, it used to be a satellite of Russia and according to the history books cost Germany a defeat in Russia as tried to defeat the Ukraine first and lost time and got into winter on the Russian steppes and never got into Stalingrad. The Russians know their own history better than anyone. Today’s Ukraine’s has more Germans there than Russians , they don’t call themselves Germans anymore . JS

[happy daze john in oz]

Think Putin has the measure of most Western leaders, particularly sleepy Joe, he knows what makes them tick.
He can do as he likes along the border, no one is game to be the first to pull the trigger.
With no NATO for Ukraine he will be very happy to walk away, but may chose to leave some troops along the border just to remind the wets he is there.

[John Pruden]

one thing against putin the same thing defeated Napoleon and Hitler the Russian winter would anyone like to be out in the open this weather? jp

[happy daze john in oz]

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> A Russian Jew named Jacob was finally allowed to emigrate to Israel. At the Moscow airport, a customs inspector found a statue of Lenin in his luggage and asked, "What is this?"
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> Jacob replied, "Wrong question, comrade. You should have asked, 'Who is this?'"
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> "This is Comrade Lenin. He laid the foundations of Socialism and created the future prosperity of the Russian people. I am taking it with me as a memory of our dear hero."
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> The Russian customs official sent him on his way.
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> At Tel Aviv airport, the Israeli customs official also asked, "What is this?"
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> "Wrong question, sir. You should be asking 'Who is this?' This, my friend, is Lenin, the bastard who caused me, a Jew, to leave Russia. I take this statue as a reminder to curse him every day."
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> When he settled in his new home, Jacob placed the statue on a table. The following evening, he invited friends and relatives to dinner. Spotting the statue, one of his cousins asked, "Who is this?"
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> Jacob replied, "Wrong question. You should have asked, 'What is this?' This is five kilograms of solid gold that I managed to bring with me from Russia without having to pay any customs duty or tax."
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> The Moral: "Politics is when you can tell the same story in different ways to fool different people and still come out smelling like a rose."
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[cappy]

Was he a chief steward by any chance......

[Tony Taylor]

one thing against putin the same thing defeated Napoleon and Hitler the Russian winter would anyone like to be out in the open this weather? jp

John, at 16.45hrs today it was sunny and 12.5*c, blowing a right hooley and I was out stabilising a fence at my daughters house, sweating like the proverbial. Warm even in a strong gale in February?