Ukraine

Selling arms is a business which a number of countries, UK, USA, France, China and a couple of others are large manufactures.
They do not store it but do find ways to use it.
Very handy if a war somewhere just happens to appear, big use then.

no money in peace?jp

Has anyone been following the the news regarding the actions of the Ukranian Azov regiment ( NATO , American and UK trained ) or is this just more fake news ?.

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Originally Posted by John Cassels

Has anyone been following the the news regarding the actions of the Ukranian Azov regiment ( NATO , American and UK trained ) or is this just more fake news ?.

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Perhaps you could post the link.

As to so called provocation, Putin must be easily frightened.

A Senior Russian Diplomat let slip the ulterior motive " Putin wants to create an empire from Vladivostok to Lisbon".

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Originally Posted by Marian Gray

Regardless of the Arms profit which is a given whoever supplies countries at war. Putin is a kleptocratic ruler. It's too easy to blame Nato, the USA and the EU for his war against Ukraine Putin wants absolute power untrammelled by the ethics of liberal democracy. That is why aligned nations are and should be concerned and involved. As Keith T, Vic and others have already intimated Putin cannot be trusted.... fullstop.

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I really wish it was as easy to explain away as that . But you can turn that statement around and show the other side of the coin - that Putin wants to protect his country
from the steady eastwards encroachment by NATO and he finally said enough is enough. As I keep on saying , there are always two sides to every argument .

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Originally Posted by vic mcclymont

Perhaps you could post the link.

As to so called provocation, Putin must be easily frightened.

A Senior Russian Diplomat let slip the ulterior motive " Putin wants to create an empire from Vladivostok to Lisbon".

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How many links do you want ? , it was just a general question .

It was more an acqusation, which now looks as though it cannot be supported.

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Originally Posted by Marian Gray

No John, you asked a specific question 'has anyone been following the news' when asked for news source you can't oblige.:rolleyes:

Like Graham, I'm bowing out of this thread it's going round in circles... droning on [pun intended] about how Putin is being maligned........ and rightly so IMO.:)

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https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254217.shtml
OK , here's one ; and Marian don't bow out until you tell me where did I say I couldn't oblige ?.

And another one and this will be the last . If the doubters now don't see that there are two sides to this affair then I
must admit defeat and say no more.
https://multipolarista.com/2022/03/1...rainians-2014/

A GILBERT AND SULLIVAN SPOOF.
I am the model of a Russian Major General.
My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable.
My forces though equipped and given orders uniquivocal,
Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal

I used to have a tank brigade , but now have lost several,
My fresh assaults are faltering with battle plans extemporal
I can’t recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can.
It’s all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan.

My ordinance is best but only half my missiles make it there,
I would of thought by now that we would be controllers of the air.
But at the rate snipers work my time here is ephemeral
I am the model of a Russian Major General !,

JS.