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[Captain Kong]

Hi Jim,
my brother had SIX kids at the time.
The miners were offered Courses to learn other trades, on pay, he learned to drive cranes, diggers and other kinds of Plant then working on the Motorway, ,
He did that for a while then he decided to buy the Guest house in Blackpool never looked back then sold up and retired,


The problem with Strikes like that is they always Hit the Innocent Public, No thought of people wanting to get home. or go away.
Brian

[cappy]

Hi Jim,
my brother had SIX kids at the time.
The miners were offered Courses to learn other trades, on pay, he learned to drive cranes, diggers and other kinds of Plant then working on the Motorway, ,
He did that for a while then he decided to buy the Guest house in Blackpool never looked back then sold up and retired,


The problem with Strikes like that is they always Hit the Innocent Public, No thought of people wanting to get home. or go away.
Brian

emxactly no thought for any but there own trough.... cappy

[Red Lead Ted]

Jim, What does this government expect when inflation has risen higher than wage increase of these guys, A lot on here sit on one side of the fence, Until of course it affects them you will never win mate, As for feathering there own nest, Politicians of all party's have done that for bloody years, By the way anyone spotted the last electored P.M. Of this country recently David Cameron .................................

[gray_marian]

#82, Anyone with common sense takes a percentage to live on for the first year whilst looking for another job,....any job! If he and his family have to upsticks then so be it. Thats no big deal when chasing the siller. Of course the first purchase should be his council property at a reduced cost [like Scargill] if not owned already, then if he does have to move it can be leased....That's how money makes money....Just takes a bit of gumption that's all. I've always found it's the ones who don't take a risk that moan about it forever more.

[cappy]

##it is always hard to calculate money value from years ago to todays standards .....but the 40000 pounds in 1984 would in todays money be...145600 pounds.....that is not be sniffed at in any mans book .......but much will have more............oh and tax free add 20 percent equalls another 29120 making a gross total of 174720 pounds in hard cash ...sadly we all have to pay tax to keep as jim calls them the skivers....amongst other dodgers.....and that is the truth of the matter...cappy

[cappy]

#82, Anyone with common sense takes a percentage to live on for the first year whilst looking for another job,....any job! If he and his family have to upsticks then so be it. Thats no big deal when chasing the siller. Of course the first purchase should be his council property at a reduced cost [like Scargill] if not owned already, then if he does have to move it can be leased....That's how money makes money....Just takes a bit of gumption that's all. I've always found it's the ones who don't take a risk that moan about it forever more.

now that marion is probably the truest statement on the site ....specially about the moaners who stand quivering on the brink .....scared to jump.....then spend the rest of there lives..... trying to knock the ones who had the balls to do it...and make a better than average living for themselves and families ... regards some common sense at last cappy

[Captain Kong]

I am sorry, but I would hate to be a Left Wing person.
Life is all Doom and Gloom.

I remember after the 1955 Seamens Strike, we joined the Empress of Scotland, and in Canada at that time a popular song was....
I like to go a wandering with a knap sack on my back, Valderee valderay . or something like that.

My mate Joe Finnegan, who was always up singing in the Pig, sang. something like this.........

When I go home on leave everyone called me Scouse
and then we go for a bevy, down in the Old Style House, [ on Chapel Street.]
Valderee...... etc.

When I go home on leave I ride my motor Bike,
but I cant afford to ride it now, cos Ive just been on Strike,
Valderee,,, etc.

When I went home on leave I lived in Scotland Road.
But since I`ve been out on Strike , Ive got no fixed abode.
Valderee ,.,, .ETC


I guess even today that says it all.
Brian.

[Red Lead Ted]

So everything is just Dandy, Take enough out of your wage to live on and find yourself another job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell that to these kids
JD Sports’ warehouse conditions said to be twice as bad” as Sports DirectBUSINESS
JD Sports’ warehouse conditions said to be “twice as bad as Sports Direct
Vivian Hendriksz | Wednesday, 14 December 2016
London Warehouses across the UK are under extra scrutiny following investigations into poor working conditions at Sports Direct, Amazon and Asos. JD Sports is the latest retailer to be hit with a scandal, as an undercover expose from Channel 4 into the retailer’s Rochdale warehouse is said to reveal working conditions “twice as bad as Sports Direct.”

Set to air Wednesday evening at 7 pm on Channel 4 News, the investigation focuses on the treatment of (temporary) warehouse workers at JD Sports Kingsway Business Park site in Rochdale, which is said to supply all the retailers stores in the UK and overseas. The undercover investigation is said to have found that workers are forced to work under strict surveillance, following a three strike rule before their are out of a job. If workers sit down during their shift, chew gum or wear the wrong item of clothing, it is enough to warrant a strike, reports Channel 4.

JD Sports warehouse conditions said to be "twice" as worse as Sports Direct
In addition, warehouse workers also face rigorous and random security checks, intimidation from supervisors and job insecurity. Temporary workers at the warehouse say that working there is “worse than prison”. The expose also claims that all agency workers are paid less than minimum wage. Ian Wright MP, who previously led the inquiry into rival Sports Direct working conditions, said he was disgusted by what Channel 4 had uncovered and is calling on JD Sports to explain the findings in front of MPs.

It’s twice as bad as it was at Sports Direct, it’s as simple as that, said Wright, who chairs the Commons’ Business, Innovation and Skills Select Committee to Channel 4. At the moment 1,5000 employees work at the warehouse in Rochdale, which operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. New workers are employed via Assist Recruitment, an agency which has worked with JD Sports for 12 years, and offers zero hour contracts with minimum pay that give the agency the freedom to terminate a contract without any prior notice.

JD Sports has responded to the allegations made in the Channel 4 investigations, claiming we dispute that we operate anything other than a normal business disciplinary process at Kingsway. No member of security or supervisory staff should be using the emotive language of strike. Assist are responsible for the disciplinary process of their own staff. Assist Recruitment say JD Sports spoke on their behalf concerning the undercover investigation.

The sportswear retailer added that waiting times to leave the warehouse after a shift averaged 3 minutes, and employees were paid for their time in spite of Channel 4 news claiming workers wait 30 minutes in line to enter and leave the site, unpaid, each day. “Our people are paid for the period of security checks on exiting the building. Our time and attendance system records attendance in a manner which ensures that all time worked, which includes exit out of the security checking area, is paid for, said the company, although they did not state if this also applied to agency workers hired by Assist Recruitment, who declined to comment alone.

In a joint statement from both JD Sport Fashion and Assist Recruitment, the two companies added: “We are deeply disappointed and concerned by the allegations being made which we believe are misleading and not an accurate reflection of our culture, the vast majority of our people or our standards of practice and procedures. Our employees are vital to our business and their welfare is an utmost priority, so we take any such allegations very seriously.

"Once Channel 4 allow access to the footage and we understand the precise nature of any allegations that do prove to be accurate, we are ready and willing to investigate them fully at the earliest opportunity. Where there have been individual failures or breaches of our policies we will take appropriate action, and learn for the future.

[gray_marian]

'So everything is just Dandy, Take enough out of your wage to live on and find yourself another job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'

Which post are you referring to?

[cappy]

well ted sadly there are winners and losers ...thats what benefits are for.......what gets me going is as jim kindly put it the strivers are having to work too hard to keep the skivers ...for me if you dont like it get out dont lump it......a good mate of mine was in advertising his own businness his son worked with him also had a.wife and child .......he employed 14 other staff ......in came the computer growth his business got less and less......he sadly let staff go one at a time till the businness closed the son with mortgage could only find work in a betting shop one of the biggies ....after 4 years the son is a area manager for a large part of west yorkshire ...with a big salary company car and big pension fund .....he got up ....got out.....and got on .....time and time again you come up with the tales of woe yet i dont see that..... i see young men getting there act together and going places time and tide waits for no one...remember gloom sees doom.......cappy