Patron saint of england.

[Fouro]

Whilst looking at the WW1 Memorial Parade held at the Cenotaph, Whitehall, on Sat 25th April, which was in remembrance of the horrors of the Gallipoli Landings, it suddenly dawned on me that St George the Patron Saint of England was in fact a Turk, therefore in my opinion, it would be good for England and the English people if Saint Edmund, the ex King of East Anglia was reinstated as Patron Saint of England. This could lead to St Edmund's Day being a public holiday and a day of English celebrations.
Getting rid of St George the Turkish myth would be good for English moral because nowadays St George's Day passes by almost unnoticed.

FOURO.

[Captain Kong]

There are so many immigrants from that part of the world there would be riots in the streets of Bolton is tan.
Good Idea tho` How could we do it.
Brian

[j.sabourn]

Kept on telling Cappy St. George wasn't a Geordie. Although there are a lot of dusky blokes and blokesses in that area. JS

[Jim Brady]

Heard a guy on the radio the other day he was adamant St.George should not be the Patron Saint of England,some foreign guy that never set foot in this country was his argument.He proposed Joseph Of Arimathea,Joseph prepared his tomb and donated it for the burial of Jesus and legend has it that he came to England and is buried at Glastonbury.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[j.sabourn]

For someone who lived for 33 years has no one tried ancestry to see if he had any children. Trouble I suppose would be the second name as no one wants to be blasphemous. The same as George although I suppose he never had time to get out of his armour. Must have been very frustrating for him, especially when it got rusty like Cappys girlfriend Rita. JS

[Captain Kong]

If He was from Turkey was he not a mu slim???
If he was, that would be quite appropriate today.
Es salaam u-alakum
Brian

[Jim Brady]

I believe George was about before *****.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi All
St George might have been a christian plenty of them in Turkey, ask the Armenians.
Cheers Des

[happy daze john in oz]

Well St Patrick of Ireland was at one time a Roman soldier if history is to be believed. So where did St Andrew come from or saint David of the Leek come from?

[Captain Kong]

From HISTORIC UK site..




St George - Patron Saint of England






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Every nation has its own ‘Patron Saint’ who in times of great peril is called upon to help save the country from its enemies. St David is the patron saint of Wales, St Andrew of Scotland and St Patrick of Ireland - St George being the patron saint of England.

But who was St. George, and what did he do to become England’s Patron Saint?

Very little is known about St. George’s life, but it is thought he was a high ranking officer in the Roman army who was killed in around AD 303.

It seems that the Emperor Diocletian had St. George tortured to make him deny his faith in Christ. However despite some of the most terrible torture even for that time, St George showed incredible courage and faith and was finally beheaded near Lydda in Palestine. His head was later taken to Rome where it was interred in the church dedicated to him.

Stories of his strength and courage soon spread throughout Europe. The best-known story about St. George is his fight with a dragon, but it is highly unlikely that he ever fought a dragon, and even more unlikely that he ever visited England, however his name was known there as early as the eighth-century.

In the Middle Ages the dragon was commonly used to represent the Devil. Unfortunately the many legends connected with St. George’s name are fictitious, and the slaying of the ‘Dragon’ was first credited to him in the 12th century.

St. George, so the story goes, killed a dragon on the flat topped Dragon Hill in Uffington, Berkshire, and it is said that no grass grows where the dragon’s blood trickled down!

It was probably the 12th century Crusaders however who first invoked his name as an aid in battle.

King Edward III made him the Patron Saint of England when he formed the Order of the Garter in St. George's name in 1350, and the cult of the Saint was further advanced by King Henry V, at the battle of Agincourt in northern France.

Shakespeare made sure that nobody would forget St. George, and has King Henry V finishing his pre-battle speech with the famous phrase, ‘Cry God for Harry, England and St. George!’

King Henry himself, who was both warlike and devout, was thought by his followers to possess many of the saint’s characteristics.


In England St. George’s Day is celebrated, and his flag flown, on his feast day, April 23rd.

An interesting piece of trivia - Shakespeare was born on St. George’s Day 1564, and if the story is to be believed, died on St. George’s Day 1616.

An appropriate end perhaps for the man who helped to immortalise the Saint in English tradition.
Tomb of St George in Israel, below....