Fleetwood, a seafaring town.

[Captain Kong]

Re: Fleetwood, a seafaring town.
They have changed the name John and also do a web based trading from West Yorkshire as http://www.theyachtshop.co.uk

Trading as: The Yacht Shop
1 Station Road,
Fleetwood,
Lancs,
FY7 6NW
United Kingdom

Tel: 01253 879238
Fax: 01253 773230

Fleetwood Trawlers Supply has run a Chandlery shop at Fleetwood since 1912, traditionally supplying almost everything and anything to the hundreds of fishing boats using the port.Since the decline of the fishing industry we have had to diversify into other areas and we now deal with a thriving and expanding leisure boating market, whilst retaining many of the traditional items which are not available from your normal hardware shop.
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. That has closed down now, in Station Road, dont know where it is now, I bought some rope there a while since, It is now a carpet shop.
All the Trawler Supplies, all the rigging lofts were on Dock Street, just round the corner from my house, they were all demolished to make way for ASDA. It was lovely just to stand in the door way and smell the ropes and and all the smells associated with a focsle.
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. Hi John
I guess you are thinking of the GAUL, she was lost in the North Sea in February 1974 with all hands, 36 men.
She was a new ship trawler as well as a factory ship. 18 months old, she was not discovered until 1997.
She had been suspected of being a spy ship and the Russians had sunk her. But on inspection some of her hatches and ports were open resulting in a hundred tons of water flooding in and capsizing her.
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Cheers
Brian
from The Bosuns Watch on google.
S.T. Goth FD52
Positional information courtesy of Captain Hilmar Snorrason
Goth crew information courtesy of the late Fred Hobbs

Technical

Official Number: 148478
Yard Number: 468
Completed: 1925
Gross Tonnage: 394
Net Tonnage: 174
Length: 147.5 ft
Breadth: 25.1 ft
Engine: 99NHP T.3-cyl by Amos & Smith, Hull
Speed 10.5 knots

History

8.6.1925: Launched by Cook, Welton & Gemmell Ltd, Beverley (Yd.No.468) for Hellyer Bros Ltd, Hull as GOTH.
12.8.1925: Registered at Hull (H211).
20.8.1925: Completed (Frank O. Hellyer & Owen S. Hellyer, managers.
1929: Fish carrier for halibut fishery in the Davis Strait, Greenland.
3.1.1930: Stranded near Narvik, refloated but leaking and put into Lodingen. Divers plugging leaks.
5.8.1939: Sailed Hull for White Sea last trip before requisition (Sk. J. W. Ellis).
29.8.1939: At Hull landed 1,461 kits grossed £1,664.
29.8.1939: Requisitioned for war service as a minesweeper (P.No.FY.649) (Hire rate £152.13.6d/month).
11.1945: Returned to owner.
12.1945: Sold to Wyre Steam Trawling Co Ltd, Fleetwood (Merchants (Fleetwood) Ltd, managers).
1946: Registered at Fleetwood (FD52).
4.12.1948: Sailed Fleetwood for Icelandic grounds (Sk. Wilfred Elliott); twenty one crew.
10.12.1948: Trawling NW of Straumnaes, north west coast of Iceland in company with steam trawler St. MELANTE (GY80).
11.12.1948: Storm, hauled and ran for shelter to Adalvik Bay.
13.12.1948: Reliable evidence that vessel was communicating by radio with other trawlers.
Post 13.12.1948: Presume foundered NNW of Halo, 43 miles to NW of Straumnes, Iceland in position 66°59.8 N/24°28.9 W; all twenty-one crew lost*.
23.2.1949: Posted missing.
14.4.1950: At BOT Formal Investigation (No. S.416), the Court found that the casualty was probably caused by heavy weather, but other possibilities, mine explosion, boiler explosion, bunker explosion, could not be excluded.
15.11.1997: Icelandic trawler HELGA (RE49) (Sk. Vidar Benediktsson) fishing on NW Iceland grounds, trawled up a funnel which was identified in Reykjavik as belonging to the GOTH. Returned to Fleetwood.
12.2006: After repainting sited as a memorial to the lost trawlermen beside the Asda store at the corner of Dock Street and Station Road.

* Lost (all Fleetwood unless stated):
Skipper: Wilfred (Wink) Elliot aged 36, Warbreck Hill Rd, Blackpool
Mate: A. E. Plummer, aged 47, Preston
Bosun: John Edwards, aged 35, Hathaway Place, Fleetwood
Chief Engineer: G. H. Knight, aged 52, Garfield Rd Fleetwood
2nd Engineer: Alfred Patterson, aged 24, Dock St Fleetwood
Wireless Operator: Stanley Bowles, aged 19, Newton-le-Willows
Fireman: Thomas Dagger, aged 25, Springfield Terrace, Fleetwood
Fireman: Harvey Ramsden, aged 24, Layton Blackpool
Fireman: J. Beattie, aged 24, Liverpool
Cook: H. P. Blyth, aged 51, Bolton
Assistant Cook: Albert Silcock, aged 20, Preston
Deckhand: Ernest Parker (DSM) aged 28, Heathfield Rd Fleetwood
Deckhand: John Tandy, aged 27, Victoria St. Fleetwood
Deckhand: Harry Buckley, aged 24, Carr Rd Fleetwood
Deckhand: William Durbin, aged 26, Shakespeare Rd Fleetwood
Deckhand: Norman Grisenthwaite, aged 24, Heathfield Rd Fleetwood
Deckhand: Harry Smith, aged 23, Heathfield Rd Fleetwood
Deckhand: Richard Snasdell, aged 23, Oak St Fleetwood
Deckhand: Benjamin Redman, aged 27, Blackiston St Fleetwood
Deckhand: J. Davies, aged 60, Gordon Rd Fleetwood
Brassie: Robert Rhimes, aged 16, Broomfield Rd Fleetwood

A wireless message from the GOTH stating her intention to seek shelter was picked up by the Grimsby vessel LINCOLN CITY.
Note: Goth was due to be renamed WYRE GALANT on her return.

On 15/11/1997 the Icelandic trawler HELGA (RE 49) picked up a funnel in her nets while fishing NNW of Halo. It was taken to Reykjavic and identified as part of the GOTH. The funnel has now been returned to Fleetwood where relatives of those who were lost intend to preserve it as a memorial

[John Arton]

Brian
Thanks for that, yes it was the Gaul not the Goth I was thinking about.
Enjoy sunny Fleetwood
rgds
JA

[Captain Kong]

Hi John
Sunderland Point is opposite Glasson Dock across the River Lune. about forty minutes drive via Lancaster.
Cheers
Brian.

[John Arton]

Brian
Re. Sunderland Point
Brought it up as I was looking at some old photos recently and remembered when visiting my mother before she died, us all having a drive to Sunderland point.
What really focused my mind is that somewhere on the point is a memorial to I'm Shure, some seafarers but for the love of me cannot find the photo I took of this memorial or even if it was to a seafarer.
rgds
JA

[robpage]

I wonder if it is Sambo's Grave , the Servant of a sea captain on the slave route who died in the old brewery at Sunderland Point In the early 18th century Sunderland Point was a port for Lancaster, serving ships too large to sail up to the town.According to the Lonsdale Magazine of 1822,Sambo had arrived around 1736 from the West Indies as a servant to the captain of an unnamed ship:After she had discharged her cargo, he was placed at the inn ... with the intention of remaining there on board wages till the vessel was ready to sail; but supposing himself to be deserted by the master, without being able, probably from his ignorance of the language, to ascertain the cause, he fell into a complete state of stupefaction, even to such a degree that he secreted himself in the loft on the brewhouses and stretching himself out at full length on the bare boards refused all sustenance. He continued in this state only a few days, when death terminated the sufferings of poor Samboo. As soon as Samboo’s exit was known to the sailors who happened to be there, they excavated him in a grave in a lonely dell in a rabbit warren behind the village, within twenty yards of the sea shore, whither they conveyed his remains without either coffin or bier, being covered only with the clothes in which he died. - Lonsdale Magazine, 1822

It has been suggested that Sambo may have died from a disease contracted from contact with Europeans, to which he had no natural immunity, although some more romanticised stories say that he died of a broken heart when his enslaver left him there. He was buried in unconsecrated ground (as he was not a Christian) on the weatherbeaten shoreline of Morecambe Bay


Here lies
Poor Samboo
A faithfull Negro
Who
(Attending his Maſter from the Weſt Indies)
Died on his Arrival at Sunderland
Full sixty Years the angry Winter's Wave
Has thundering daſhd this bleak & barren Shore
Since Sambo's Head laid in this lonely Grave
Lies still & ne'er will hear their turmoil more.

Full many a Sandbird chirps upon the Sod
And many a Moonlight Elfin round him trips
Full many a Summer's Sunbeam warms the Clod
And many a teeming Cloud upon him drips.

But still he sleeps _ till the awakening Sounds
Of the Archangel's Trump new Life impart
Then the Great Judge his Approbation founds
Not on Man's Color but his_Worth of Heart

James Watſon Scr. H.Bell del. 179

[Captain Kong]

That is the one Rob
Sambo`s grave, a well known story.
Cheers
Brian.

[robpage]

In this Politically correct world shouldn't Fleetwood rename the lad , and call him Colin of Graham or something , his spirit might be upset at being the only Sambo in Lancashire

Now , think on the answer , Tony has not Tonied anyone yet !!!

[Captain Kong]

I dont see anything wrong with the name Sambo, if that is his name then so be it. I would not like some stupid PC person to change my name after I have snuffed it.
I bet my pen name Kong will be Offensive soon.they may think I am a tiddlywink.
The most popular name in Lancashire now is Mohammed so he could be named that so no one would be Offended, except Sambo himself.
What a daft world we live in,I am always Offended by PC persons and their daft ideas.
Just going to open a bottle wine, Not any european ones, hate anything to do with europe,
we always drink Australian and NZ wines Only and South African,, Now that should upset some PC person.

Cheers
Brian

[happy daze john in oz]

We have a sporting stadium here named after a N****** Brown. Yes that was his name and he was a Black man. The political correct brigade want the name changed, just makes you wonder hwo they think.

[robpage]

Rename it after the poor dead slave buried in the unconsecrated grave at Sunderland Point , call it Sambo's