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16th November 2013, 02:56 PM
#71
Re: Climate change?????
A good while back(a very good while back) when I was young and keen enough to learn new words I thought melancholy had a soft 'ch as in chair.It came out sounding rather similar to 'financially'
My elder sister(when she was(still is!) a proper little madam told me(and little brothers just had to believe their big sisters on pain of death,didn't they) that the word picturesque was pronounced 'picture skew'.So for many years I thought picturesque referred to any crooked picture hanging on the wall.
Oh,and panache ,I used to think it was pronounced pan ache (as in toothache).God knows why I thought a pan should feel any pain at all totally escaped me at the time....
Last edited by Gulliver; 16th November 2013 at 03:03 PM.
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16th November 2013, 03:36 PM
#72
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16th November 2013, 06:40 PM
#73
Re: Climate change?????
Sorry Brian , but on two points you are very inaccurate. Elements can not be created but compounds can and water is a compound created from oxygen and hydrogen so the amount on Earth can vary . Secondly apart from creationists no one else claims that man appeared on this earth after the last ice age. So please tell us all where you get your facts from?
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16th November 2013, 08:25 PM
#74
Re: Climate change?????
Elements Can be created , the Building blocks of the Elements Electrons, Protons and Neutrons cannot be created , Rather than getting boring further information is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_element , the sub species of Modern man is about 200,000 years old the facs are from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin...uman_evolution The end of the last interglacial period was around 12.500 years ago , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_glacial_period .
So Brian was not that far adrift For a Boltonian
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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16th November 2013, 08:55 PM
#75
Re: Climate change?????
Thanks for that Rob, I was just going to say I got the "Facts" from GOOGLING.
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I do not think that All the Extra Trillions and Trillions of cubic metres of water could have come from the oxygen and hydrogen, That is one hell of a lot of Trillion Trillion of cubic miles of gas.
I had it calculated on one thread on here a couple of years ago, I had all the figures, number of sq.Metres of ocean etc. and the Cubic metres of water to increase sea levels by just one metre. cannot find it at the moment.The figure is staggering in the Trillions and trillions plus of cubic metres of water and that cannot come from our atmosphere.
One cubic metre of water is one tonne X trillions and trillions. one hell of a lot of weight.
So it still remains the same.the amount of water on day one whether it is water, ice or vapour, you cannot get rid of water in any shape or form , the amount will always remain the same.
There is not enough ice on the planet to fill up the oceans to that extent even if it all melted.
If there is a great Ice Melt in the summer in the Arctic and Antarctic the sea levels do not rise, when it Freezes over in winter the sea levels do not go down.
When I was in the Antarctic in 2009 the British Antarctic Survey team told me the Antarctic is freezing more now than it has done for many years.
A Green would measure the melt in summer, they never measure the Freeeze up in winter.
I have a place in Fleetwood and the sea has never risen there at anytime, I have looked at the history and the sea is further off shore now than it was a hundred years ago, Where did the water go to??.
They thought that some Islands in the Pacific were having rising sea levels until they discovered that the Islands were actually sinking. I spend a lot of time in the Pacific Islands every year, going again in six weeks. for two months.and have looked into this with my many Polynesian friends who work for the French Polynesian Government. They all say the same, the land is sinking and Not rising sea levels. All the Islands are of volcanic origin and this wears away quite easily and sinks as compared with say a Granite Rock made Island.
Still it does not really matter, we will not be here to see who is right and who is wrong, BUT I do not like or believe Greens, all they want to do is make me pay more Taxes out of my miserable Pension.
Cheers
Brian
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16th November 2013, 09:51 PM
#76
Re: Climate change?????
now if we came from apes were are we going is this all we can be??jp
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16th November 2013, 11:19 PM
#77
Re: Climate change?????
Hi John
If we are decended from Apes, why are there still Apes?
Brian
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16th November 2013, 11:40 PM
#78
Re: Climate change?????
That many different type of apes, were just one of them. john sabourn
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16th November 2013, 11:57 PM
#79
Re: Climate change?????
Hi Guys,
If you check out the National Snow & Ice Data Centre, (A US Government website nsidc.org), you will see in their September 2013 news that the Antarctic Sea Ice is at a record high, more of it than there has ever been, ever since they started to send up satellites to watch it. There is an average of 12 miles extra sea ice all the way around Antarctica. Now that is an awful lot of extra ice in a world that is supposed to be getting warmer?

Dave
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17th November 2013, 02:50 AM
#80
Re: Climate change?????
Sea Ice... regardless of whether it melts or not makes no difference to any rise or decrease in level heights. Basic chemistry. Also in a round about way the principle of the telemotor system for working the rudder which a lot on this site spent many months behind the wheel using. Water is not compressible. John Sabourn. P.S. Think the building of all these new gigantic ships would have more influence of raising water levels.JS
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