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The Obliquity of te Earth changes between 22 and 24 degrees on a 41,000 year cycle as does te eccentricity of the orbit , at last I have found some reliable sense on this , and rather than reprint it here the link is http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fea...logy_Evidence/ so despite teh Conspiricy mob and teh Prophets of Doom what is happening is natural and Cyliclical
really mad now ....I should have spent more time in the school than on the roof .....and could grasp easier these degrees and other axis and things ....but mind it was pretty educating on the roof......I did major in other fields
what part of the uk or other do you live john not too cold in noth yorks at the moment 8 degrees........rather have the 3 degreesQuote:
Originally Posted by JOHN PRUDEN
Which ones , they kept changing , a bit like climate change
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yes rob can see your ...well into them as well .....as for me any one .....and with the help of a little tablet the lotof them ......oh to hear them sing
hi Colin. with regard to your#90 I believe it has happened before. the polarity of the earth has fluctuated. with regards all this pollution, the USA has been dumping crushed cars in the sea for many years and probably still does, also old rail cars and probably other polluting products. most countries including the UK dump old munitions in the sea which can't be a good thing
[QUOTE=j.sabourn;145895however do have great faith in our earlier forefathers the likes of Galilleo and Archimedes whose theories have proved correct over a period of hundreds of years.These were fantastic brains and to be able to plot the planets and stars and all heavenly bodies ( not Marylin Monroes unfortuanetley ) is a miracle, their figures still being used today, don't think there has been anybody in our lifetime that could anywhere near match or compare and having only the use of the basic tools, a telescope. Cheers John Sabourn[/QUOTE]
Not forgetting the navigators of 16th - 18th centuries using only quadrants and early sextants, unreliable time pieces and a few sticks who mapped out the contours of the islands and continents with a degree of accuracy that a GPS would find hard to fault and today so easily recognisable from space, they were truley amazing men going about their daily lives without the aid of electronics or any form of propulsion except what nature could provide.
Cappy would say sounds like one of Runcimans. The only sextant I ever had was an old vernier, ex mothball stores R.N. cost 10 pounds. Think I later sold as an antique for 20 pounds, when the company started putting a ships sextant on board to cut back on excess baggage when flying. A lot of things changed when crew had to fly out to join ships, all heavy gear, carpenters and cooks knives etc. suddenly appeared on board, this apparently to cut back on excess air freight. Some may think it was out of the shipowners good heart. Cheers John Sabourn
#106 Alf some *astard must have stuck a 40 gallon drum at the N.Pole, full of Kryptonite. Believe superman hangs around up there somewhere so will blame him. Cheers John Sabourn
The climate, whether Tropical, sub tropical, temerate or cold had always been here. It may well have moved over time in location. Soil cores show that Ireland was about two million years ago sub tropical, now it is Temperate.
On Sunday here in Oz about 60,000 persons marched in a number of cities telling the gov to do something about climate change!
Many of these people confuse weather patterns with climate change. They were complaining that the hot weather for this year in NSW had come early!
Last year we had here in Victoria a very long summer, hot but not over hot with no day over 38 degrees. People tend to forget that in 1982 we had 9 days over 40 degrees that summer and i do noty recall anyone even mentioning climate change.
The UN committee on the climate claim hat all scientists working for gov agencies across the globe agree with the global warming theory. Yet some 30,000 other scientists a couple of years ago signed the Canada agreement saying there was no proof of any such event taking place. Scientists working for gov agencies will produce what govs want to hear, it means continuation of funding for them.
In the paper Sunday a scientist of note said the earth had only warmed by 0.09 degrees in the last 100 years, yet complete global weather poatterns and global temperatures have only been kept since 1948.
Birmingham university copleted a study into wind farms lasy year, the conclusion, they are the most expensive and least efficient way to produce energy. But of course people such as Al Gore will disagree, but then he has a 50% stake in a wind turbine company.