41°46' n, 50° 14' w

[cappy]

john don't know much navigation butmy brain as old as it is tells me that perhaps is on the tyne area now not known as the coally tyne but the salmony tyne I have just been down south to see my grandsonplay rugby for England under 16s agains france Netherlands and the belgiums we beat them all it was at wellington college a magnificent old school where the duke of wellington was honoured after beating the French at waterlooit is rumouredthat the French were given one of the dormitorys named napolians retreat which I suppose is what is called gamesmanship but for a shieldslad to see his own in an England blazer and englandshirt then see him run on the field made a bit of salt water of my own it just seems as life always keeps giving us surprises some good some bad regards from the proudest Geordie granda in geordieland cappy from shields

[John Cassels]

Did I not read somewhere that the wreck was found 16 nm from that famous position ?.

[j.sabourn]

Just something that I was told when I was 15, dont even know if really 100 per cent right or not as never checked out on a chart. However was told that Ocean Road in South Shields was on Lat 55 degrees north. No doubt someone will either google or have a Mercator chart of the area. However was another bit of useful/useless info.stuck in the back of mind. Cheers John Sabourn

[j.sabourn]

Sounds about right for our times. Probably a DR from a Noon position or there again may have had no sights for a few days. I have been 50 miles out on making a landfall off Cape Gardafui (Horn of Africa) from noon sight to 1800 hours landfall.There again the currents in that particular part are very un predictable. Nowadays your actual position is with you all the time, no need for navigation as we knew it. Cheers John Sabourn

[robpage]

Ocean Road 55 N 1,25,27 W at the sea end

[cappy]

john with 18 curry shops in a row a more suitable name would be open to suggestionthan ocean rd I believe at one time it was called some german name so in reply to you and rob it could be ocean rd Pakistan rd or german road but the old life boat still on its dry mooring ses this was a sailors town and a place known all over the world as that regards cappy

[Captain Kong]

[I]Anybody gone into the fine tuning on the reported position given by the Titanic and the actual position when found. As no GPS and such like in those days, and believe it was dark when she went down, her final position would of either been at noon or maybe evening stars. Therefore her position givng out would of either been a DR or EP. Was wondering if anyone had worked out how accurate they were. Regards John Sabourn [/I
.
.It was a clear night on the 14th so I should imagine they got evening star sights They obviously know the position now , we stopped above it and a friend dived on it, A present from his wife when he retired.
Cheers
Brian.

[j.sabourn]

Told them not to narrow the road and make it pedestrian only. Thanks Rob. John Sabourn

[j.sabourn]

Most on here will remember the old last resort in the likes of the North sea groping around in fog in the North sea years ago before the time of oil rigs etc. Having to fall back on the old DF. I even remember the half convergency error to apply to same Half Dlong times Cos Lat. Was it just the ships I was on and people who sailed with, but always appeared very inaccurate to me, and was more inclined to rely on soundings if in towards the coast of Europe. For those who retired later or are still at sea, is any use still made of this Aid to Navigation ? Cheers John Sabourn.