what will be next?

[Louis the Amigo]

Hi shipmates, its not the food we eat but whats put into it The food industry in the U. K is no1 in transgenic foods, we are NOT told about this due to negative public reaction over the food we buy , it helps supermarkets to have better looking and longer shelf products much of the fruit and veg sold by them, have build in anti bodys. long term effects on animals /people are unknown There is a worrying lack of expertise in plant biochemisty due to lack of funds by the government. What will meat from cloned animals or hybrids do to us?

[Captain Kong]

I have stopped eating Beef, it gives me gout, I suffered for years then I heard it was the uric acid in beef that caused it so I stopped seven years ago and never had gout since.
I got it in Australia seven years ago after eating many big beefy steaks I flew home with a wheelchair at different airports in extreme agony, stopped and never had it since. I do miss the steaks but not the pain.
So some food can have an effect on your health.
Cheers
Brian

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From Foods High in Uric Acid – a Surprising Myth » GoutPal
Food	Purines (Uric Acid mg/100g)
Theobromine	2300
Yeast, Brewer’s	1810
Sprat, smoked	804
Yeast, Baker’s	680
Ox liver	554
Pig’s heart	530
Pig’s spleen	516
Pig’s liver	515
Mushroom, flat, edible Boletus, dried	488
Fish, sardines in oil	480
Liver, Calf’s	460
Ox spleen	444
Pig’s lungs (lights)	434
Ox lungs (lights)	399
Fish, sardine, pilchard	345
Spleen, Calf’s	343
Pig’s kidney	334
Fish, trout	297
Fish, Tuna in oil	290
Ox kidney	269
Fish, Tuna	257
Ox heart	256
Liver, chicken	243
Fish, Redfish (ocean perch)	241
Heart, Sheep’s	241
Fish, Anchovy	239
Black gram (mungo bean), seed, dry	222
Fish, Herring, Matje cured	219
Kidney, Calf’s	218
Fish, Herring, Atlantic	210
Horse meat	200
Bean, Soya, seed, dry	190
Fish, Herring roe	190
Lamb (muscles only)	182
Fish, Halibut	178
Chicken (breast with skin)	175
Veal, muscles only	172
Fish, salmon	170
Poppy seed, seed, dry	170
Pork muscles only	166
Goose	165
Sausage, liver (liverwurst)	165
Fish, Saithe (coalfish)	163
Fish, Carp	160
Ox tongue	160
Pork leg (hind leg)	160
Chicken, boiling fowl, average	159
Pork fillet	150
Pork shoulder with skin (blade of shoulder)	150
Turkey, young animal, average, with skin	150
Veal knuckle with bone	150
Veal, leg of veal with bone	150
Veal, neck with bone	150
Lungs, Calf’s	147
Shrimp, brown	147
Fish, Mackerel	145
Pork chop with bone	145
Caviar (real)	144
Sunflower seed, dry	143
Pike	140
Pork chuck	140
Veal chop, cutlet with bone	140
Veal fillet	140
Veal, shoulder	140
Fish, Haddock	139
Duck, average	138
Venison haunch (leg)	138
Pig’s tongue	136
Scallop	136
Beef, muscles only	133
Rabbit meat, average with bone	132
Fish, Sole	131
Ham, cooked	131
Bean, seed, white, dry	128
Lentil, seed, dry	127
Pork belly, raw, smoked dried	127
Beef, chuck	120
Beef, fore rib, entrecote	120
Pork hip bone (hind leg)	120
Lobster	118
Chicken (chicken for roasting), average	115
Mussel	112
Sausage “Jagdwurst”	112
Beef, fillet	110
Beef, roast beef, sirloin	110
Beef, shoulder	110
Chicken, leg with skin, without bone	110
Fish, Pike-perch	110
Fish, Cod	109
Peas, chick (garbanzo), seed, dry	109
Grape, dried, raisin, sultana	107
Linseed	105
Rabbit/Hare (average)	105
Venison back	105
Sausage salami, German	104
Sausages, frying, from pork	101
Pork belly	100
Barley without husk, whole grain	96
Sausage “Mortadella”	96
Pea, seed, dry	95
Oats, without husk, whole grain	94
Plaice	93
Brain, Calf’s	92
Mushroom, flat, edible Boletus, cep	92
Sausages, frying, from veal	91
Oyster	90
Frankfurter sausages	89
Sausage “Bierschincken”	85
Pea, pod and seed, green	84
Pig’s brain	83
Broccoli	81
Bean sprouts, Soya	80
Tench	80
Nuts, peanut	79
Artichoke	78
Fish, eel (smoked)	78
Sausage “Fleischwurst”	78
Sausage, Vienna	78
Ox brain	75
Leek	74
Sausages, German (Mettwurst)	74
Apricot	73
Sausage “Munich Weisswurst”	73
Cocoa powder, oil partially removed, not including theobromine	71
Grass, Viper’s (black salsify)	71
Meat, luncheon	70
Brussel sprouts	69
Tofu	68
Chives	67
Fig (dried)	64
Plum, dried	64
Millet, shucked corn	62
Sesame (gingelly) seed, Oriental, dry	62
Fish, Crayfish	60
Crispbread	60
Mushroom	58
Banana	57
Beef, corned (German)	57
Parsley, leaf	57
Spinach	57
Peppers, green	55
Pudding, black	55
Corn, sweet	52
Cauliflower	51
Rye, whole grain	51
Wheat, whole grain	51
Oyster, mushroom	50
Kale	48
Beans, French, dried	45
Pumpkin	44
Pasta made with egg (noodles, macaroni, spaghetti, etc.	40
Lettuce, Lamb’s	38
Almond, sweet	37
Beans, French (string beans, haricot)	37
Cabbage, savoy	37
Nuts, hazelnut (cobnut)	37
Date, dried	35
Elderberry, black	33
Melon, Cantelope	33
Cabbage, red	32
Cheese, Limburger, 20% fat content in dry matter	32
Celeriac	30
Morel	30
Quince	30
Bamboo Shoots	29
Mushrooms, canned, solid and liquid	29
Olive, green, marinated	29
Cress	28
Grape	27
Kohlrabi	25
Nuts, Walnut	25
Plum	24
Squash, summer	24
Asparagus	23
Nuts, Brazil	23
Bilberry, blueberry, huckleberry	22
Cabbage, white	22
Aubergine	21
Chinese leaves	21
Peach	21
Rolls, bread	21
Strawberry	21
Avocado	19
Beet root	19
Kiwi fruit (Chinese gooseberry, strawberry peach)	19
Orange	19
Pineapple	19
Caviar substitute	18
Potato, cooked with skin	18
Raspberry	18
Carrot	17
Cherry, Morello	17
Currant, red	17
Endive	17
Mushrooms, Chanterelle	17
Mushrooms, Chanterelles, canned, solids & liquids	17
Gooseberry	16
Potato	16
Sauerkraut, dripped off	16
Radish	15
Apple	14
Beer, real, light	14
Bread, wheat (flour) or (white bread)	14
Fennel leaves	14
Beer, Pilsner lager beer, regular beer, German	13
Lettuce	13
Onion	13
Radishes	13
Chicory	12
Pear	12
Rhubarb	12
Tomato	11
Cheese, cottage	9.4
Beer, alcohol free	8.1
Yogurt, min. 3.5% fat content	8.1
Cucumber	7.3
Cheese, Brie	7.1
Cheese, edam, 30% fat content in dry matter	7.1
Cheese, edam, 40% fat content in dry matter	7.1
Cheese, edam, 45% fat content in dry matter	7.1
So Beef is not as bad as some may lead you to believe

[Colin Hawken]

What a load of crap these people tell us. I've always eaten any thing I wanted to,and still do My favourite breakfast is an egg and bacon sarnie. What my late Wife always called a messy sandwich. I'm turned 80 and still eat that way. I still regularly go to the Pub and drink more than"they" say I should.We're only here once,as far as we know.Ignore the doomsayers and enjoy the ride.

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi All.
Sign on the back of a garbage truck, This was yesterdays meals on wheels.
Cheers Des

[Tony Morcom]

I have always been a great believer in the fact that we only live once and not one of us knows what will get us in the end so just enjoy it. Capt K's recent Hawaiian episode is perhaps another stark reminder that any thing can happen at any time. The body is such a complicated entity that nobody really understands fully. Any one of us can unfortunately be struck down with just about any body failure at any time, often for no apparent reason. A typical example is my own wife's predicament; why after a simple case of flu is she still suffering some 6 years later with a viral complication which has rendered her disabled and in severe permanent pain?! Nobody in the medical profession can answer because quite simply no one knows what actually causes M.E. despite years of research. Many hundreds of thousands of people suffer horrifying diseases caused by Gods knows what. Yes, some can be blamed on the so called evils of drink and some nicotine and yet others are not affected. Why? An 82 year old lady in our village was killed recently simply because she was in the wrong place at the wrong time and a delivery lorry ran her over. She wasn't in the wrong neither was the driver; it was simple mechanical failure. Was she a smoker or a drinker, who knows. She has probably been enjoying eating horse meat, halal meat etc., etc, just like the rest of us but in the end it didn't matter because after 82 years of living her life in the best way she knew it all ended in a simple accident.

Thousands of people die in car accidents which aren't even caused by the car they are in. A 10 year old boy was severely injured not far from here the day before yesterday when he was hit by an ambulance on a 999 call, people get killed by fire every day of the week. Our brave servicemen go off to war, some return others don't, again why? Who knows?? The bottom line is that for the vast majority of us our end will come caused by reasons over which we have absolutely no control what soever. My dear old grandfather lived to 101, survived the Somme in WW1 and who knows what in WW2, smoked all his life, enjoyed a drink and yet when he passed it was through simple old age and his body just gently shutting down. His lovely wife only managed 80 years on this earth and died from multiple strokes. No one knows why, the medical profession don't have the answers; it was just a simple fact of life.

So in conclusion until someone can produce a blueprint of life I will continue to eat what I enjoy, have the odd drink now and again and yes, continue to enjoy the fags simply because it helps me to deal with life. My dad gave up smoking and yet he died 10 years later of a stroke! My first doctor gave up smoking at 45 years of age and was dead a week later by a freak accident! Again I ask why why? None of us know and none of the medical professionals really know. If they did they would be able to do something about it. I shudder to think what will get me in the end but in the mean time I'll carry on the best I can, enjoy the odd bit of horse meat and the thousand an one other foods that if the so called experts are right will kill me with some deadly disease: why? that's simple ~ I have no bloody choice. Rant for the day over

[John Pruden]

tony i worked on average 60 hours a week all my working life smoked since i was 14 out in all weathers worked with what i found out was a broken back for 20 of them yet until 7 years ago never went to see a doctor and when i did they had lost my records they thought i had moved or emigrated then at 55 i got hit with the lot health wise the sh.t hit the fan eat when you are hungry and drink when your dry if you feel like it go for it{food wise} enjoy every day you have got i treat every day as if its my last one day i will be right?jp

[Captain Kong]

Excellent explanation Tony. very interesting.
You are so right. what will the end of this day bring?????......................... _
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My old Dad always said ."All things in moderation."
Cheers
Brian.

[Gulliver]

Excellent post Tony and I agree with all of your sentiments EXCEPT your pro-smoking attitude.I'm not intentionally being nasty towards you or the other smokers aboard here,but I'm afraid you use the excuse that life is just one big risk anyway,and that if you don't die from a smoking-related disease,then you'll die from something else...

Smoking kills more people throughout the world annually than are killed in accidents.It is also an extremely selfish way of both self-harming oneself and affecting others lives either physically for them by smoking in their presence,or emotionally for them by destroying your body in front of your loved ones who may have to watch you die in great physical pain . Smokers also place a great burden on the National Health Service.

One may occasionally ,unknowingly( ! )eat a delicious 'Shergar burger or put oneself at risk of being wiped out on the M6 by a tired Roumanian juggernaut driver. Kismet! But Fate should not be tempted,and the smoking brigade,by ignoring warnings that Smoking Kills (and it most certainly does) seems suicidal and shows up how selfish and not in Control of their lives they are.

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[cappy]

Gulliver u r entitled to your view but sometimes its not needed cappy