Racism !!!!!!

[Jim Brady]

The media are responsible for whipping up this racial hysteria,every time you open the paper or turn on the TV it is in your face.People who are very tolerant and have not got a racial bone in their body are talking about it and exclaiming how it is now beginning to annoy them.To give you an idea you know about the recent football furoreJohn Terry and Saurez.This week a black Oldham player was allegedly racialy abused by a Liverpool supporter from the Kop,notice I said A supporter.The TV cameras have been camped out outside Liverpools ground reporting that a black player was racialy abused by the Cop.The Cop hold some 12.000 supporters so there in Liverpools ground was 12,000 racist.A man in his 20's has been arrested and bailed,not guilty of anything at the stage.Some say he said you Manc Bstd (Manc refering to somebody from manchester)This mass reporting whipped up by the media has meant that web sites have been set up renaming Anfield (Liverpools ground) as KU KLUX KLANfield.Liverpool F.C. and it's supporters are known as a very tolerant football club,this by the way is not being said by a supporter of L,F,C,
Another case at the moment is that of Stephen Lawrence(S.L. was murdered by 5 white youths 18 years ago)Two men now in their 30's have now just been convicted and gaoled for 14 and 15 years.As the murder was carried out when they were in their youth this is the tariff that the judge was able to give them by law.
It was a terrible crime and they did deserve what was handed out to them.The papers are screaming out Gaol Them For Life If They Dont Disclose The Names Of The Other Three Involved.If the accused were black what are the odds of those headlines appearing in the paper.
Stephen Lawrences father has just been on the TV,he has moved back to the West Indies as it a far safer place than the streets of London,he fears for his grandchildren still living in the U.K. I would say if you are a black youth living in London you have more chance of being killed by another black than a white.The black on black crime in the Capital is way out of control.
As a matter of interest if this young man in Liverpool who was arrested for the racial abuse apologises just like our M.P. Dianne Abbott made an apology do you think no further action will be taken against him!!!

Regards.
Jim.B.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Sorry not mentioning the really bad seemingly retorts about the Welsh, just a spelling mistake, was going to talk of my Aunty Welch of:

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Nos Da:

K.

[Red Lead Ted]

[QUOTE=Jim Brady;78341]The media are responsible


They are all jumping on the gravy train the charge this Liverpool supporter is facing is {AGRAVATED RACIAL ABUSE} I wonder who dreampt that one up. Bloody ridiculous Regards Jim Terry.

[happy daze john in oz]

In the days of Queen Victoria anyone born in a country of the Empire as it was then was entitled to live in UK if they wished. Times have changed and much of the problem is not racism as such but rather the work of the 'doo good; brigade. Here in Oz much of this is lead by the "Greens' who think thta just about anyone who knocks on the door should be let in. We have politicians who say we are a wonderful example to the world of how a multi racial society should be. But the fact is there are thousands of people living here as part of our imigration program who will never intigrate or want to.
just returned from a cruise to see our Kiwi friends, and they have no problem with being called that, on a ship with 97 different nationality of crew members. They work together with no problem, but some of the bloods aboard obviously do have one. I heard many a racist comment from some, and often some who you would have thought not capable of it. But we had two on a table next to us at dinner, italian extraction who have ben in Oz for over 40 years. Both were very polite and always said hello, but the fact was they had little English after all this time. One of the head waiters was an Italian and they would only speak with him when it came to menu choice. So who is the racist here? Is it the customer or is it the head waiter who could have easily ignored them.
But in truth racism has been around as long as man kind has and will continue in some form or other for ever. No matter how hard governments or 'do gooders' try they will never be able to make someone like somone else no matter where they are from, it is a personal choice.

[Louis the Amigo]

Hi shipmates Hi john Pruden you are right about Liverpool and the chinese commuity it was on the T.V. before xmas the Chinese have bought all the old docklands and a few waste grounds and where the factorys were, to make a mega city this will be the biggest chinese city outside China estimate over 300,000+will live there for a start with many workers from China and new business will employ thousands'of local workers The government con/libdem has given the permission for the building to start What will the new city be called?

[Captain Kong]

China town??????

[George]

It wasn't my intention to get involved on this one, but have to confess that in general it's been a good debate. My opinion of racism, is quite simple if a person or persons don't like what they hear shout racist. I once worked with a Indian chap who openley addmitted that there were moore prejudise and racist in his country than any other Country in the world, (his words not mine) and that for me, sums up exactley what we in the UK have imported through migration from that continent. When I was at sea no ships would of sailed had all the crews taken offence at the names we called each other and our prisons would have been over crowded with Racists. In to-days world the term Racist is a way of dominating anouther person,or persons by law and getting ones own way.Roger D you are wright to a point regarding the politicians and our Goverments, they haven't helped but in the Weston World, we the ellectorate are responsible for what governance we whant, or get, and there hasn't been a reel change in Goverment since the Labour party won it's first term in office under Ramsey MacDonald way back. I also agee with those of you that are blaming the Media for the problem, I sometimes wonder who does run this Country, the Goverment or the Meadia and i'm shure they brainwash many members of the public, and Polititions.
George
in Southampton

[John Pruden]

Hi shipmates Hi john Pruden you are right about Liverpool and the chinese commuity it was on the T.V. before xmas the Chinese have bought all the old docklands and a few waste grounds and where the factorys were, to make a mega city this will be the biggest chinese city outside China estimate over 300,000+will live there for a start with many workers from China and new business will employ thousands'of local workers The government con/libdem has given the permission for the building to start What will the new city be called?

i must have slept through that program Louis but having said that anyone that's slags of LIVERPOOL the bulk have never step foot in the city? you find the dopes say they leave your car on bricks???? why pinch the wheels when there is a perfectly good car attached to them? you can tell a scouser {BUT YOU CAN'T TELL HIM MUCH}

[alf corbyn]

i have enjoyed this thread, thank you one and all especially red lead ted.
i think we are all racist but many are scared to admit it. i know that i am racist. there are many black, brown, coffee coloured people that i have known as friends, and many i hate mainly because of thier (bad attitude) as they put it. they deliberatly pick arguments knowing that they can always, and do, employ the race card. i have been taken before the local(enfield) council by a jamaican woman, and who was the council rep? an arab. i went to sign on after an illness and was told by a pakistani girl who couldn't speak coherent english that as there were no suitable jobs i had to take what she gave me!. i eventually left enfield where i was born and moved to plymouth, but they are creeping in down here too. i could tell many tales of black racism but i guess many of you are the same as me frightened into silence by a stupid government who are taxing everyone but still living high off the hog and riding around in gas guzzling jags, a german car. and they ask you to buy british. i'll wait for the knock on the door. alf

[Captain Kong]

Very True , Alf.