Racism !!!!!!

[Jim Brady]

My take on it is this,I had no intention of getting involved in the argument because it is a "Hot Potato"
A native of any country should call the tune,so what I am saying is that they are right in whatever that they say in that Country to make the rules and regulations and the law which must be abided to.Therefore having said that we can not have same native going to another Country and then wanting to change the rules of that said Country to suit their culture.What I am saying is "Yes you are right in Jamaica and you do as you wish in your Country but dont come here and want us to change the law to suit you"You cannot be right in two Countries", right in your own yes wrong as a guest in a foriegn land.This RACISIM situation at the moment is the best Recruiting Sergeant for the National Front and BNP,one has tobe very careful of any comment at the moment,beware what you say when you ask for a bar of chocolate in your local shop,if you know what I mean!!!
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Captain Kong]

In this mornings News there is a story of Four ****** Kurdish children who are now in their late teens and their mother. They come form Turkey. They claimed asylum in Germany and after a while decided to enter Britain. they were held in a detention centre for a while.
Now they have sued the British Government, ie, the Tax Payer of this once great nation. and each one has been awarded a six figure sum of money , the amount will never be disclosed.
One complained that all she had to do was to watch TV all day.
Now hows about that for enterprise.
When I was on tankers I was in detention for six months with no TV and also had to work.
Did I miss out on something??

[Jacyn Wade]

I apologize, Abadan, if I've offended you in any way, as that was not my intention. My point is, the native people should never have been sent to reservations in the first place. They were here in this country long before the white man showed up. And the treatment of them in those subsequent years has been appalling - I'm speaking partially, of course, about the children being sent to Christian schools, away from their families and then being abused. Yes, our government recently apologized for that, finally. However, I personally do not begrude their not having to pay taxes and I'd much rather our government spend money on them than a lot of the other things they waste money on, for example, interviews and discussions in order to create a website for people immigrating to Canada OR the mating habits of brown squirrels, etc. I'm not racist, but I do believe that charity begins at home; in other words, take care of your own first.

[robpage]

I love Red Squirrels but really dislike the Grey ones , because they are American immigrants and are taking over all the woods and passing the fatal Squirrel pox to the native red ones does that make me Racist ?

[Jacyn Wade]

The Grey squirrels may think so, Rob, but I'm sure the Red squirrels love you!

[Jacyn Wade]

It is I who now find your remarks somewhat "racist", as you indicated in an earlier post to Roger. First of all, most of 'them' ARE productive members of the general population, just like the rest of us. They may not be in your general population area, but they are productive no matter where they reside in Canada. Secondly, it is NEVER too late. If everyone thought that way, there would be no progress at all. The reservations have now become their communities. What they require are more of the things offered to new immigrants to Canada.

I will tell you now that I once lived in an area of the country mostly inhabited by aboriginals and have seen firsthand what the white man has caused them, and I know them to be as productive as anyone else.

Lastly, I have found this topic interesting and have been intrigued in the members' thoughts; however, as I am rather passionate regarding certain subjects, I shall refrain from taking this much further.

[Roger Dyer]

Abadan Jan,

To suggest that I am less than impressed by the failure of post-war British governments to formulate effective immigration policy would be an understatement. To suggest that the contents of my previous posts reveal me to be a racist is both wrong and insulting.

As I have tried to explain, the British Nationality Act, 1948, was introduced in the mistaken belief that by implementing such an act a robust economic future for Britain might be achieved. Whilst no doubt mindful of obligations to the Empire, any altruistic considerations were of secondary importance. Contrary to what you may believe, the purpose of the act was not to reaffirm the right of Commonwealth citizens to enter and reside in Britain, but was initially intended to encourage people, (preferably adult males), to come to Britain to work and hopefully revitalise a struggling economy. This is not a figment of my imagination, it is fact.

It is my belief that in 1948 the Government's long-term vision for Britain was flawed. They failed to see that such an immigration policy had the propensity to generate mass migration to levels that a comparitively small nation such as Britain could not adequately accommodate or sustain. Although it wasn't long before some members of parliament began to doubt the wisdom of such policy, it was not until the implementation of the Commonwealth Immigration Act in 1962, that any attempt was made to reduce the ingress of migrants. Since that time, various acts have been implemented to further reduce migrant influx, but with little effect. Now, with an increasing problem of illegal migration, the situation has gone from bad to worse. All too late, they've come to the realisation that a jug can only hold so much water and now, everyday life is becoming increasingly difficult for many Britons, native and migrant alike. If not with the post-war governments, A.J., where do you think the blame lies?

I was rather taken back by your 'racist' accusation of me to which, of course, you are most certainly entitled. Having experience of previous disagreement with you I am aware that any attempt by me to protest my innocence would be a total waste of my time and yours, but I will say this. If my belief that 'the primary obligation of any Government is to it's native people' makes me a 'racist' in your eyes, then I'm sorry - for you!!!.

.............Roger

[John Pruden]

as LIVERPOOL has been mentioned on this thread i ask don't you think we are lucky to live in such a wonderful city?? and it may be added the oldest Chinese community in the world. if it was that bad why was it capital of culture that doesn't seem to be a bad place to be deported to? i remain a scouser.john

[Ivan Cloherty]

Why don't we close this thread, its run its course there seems nothing to add that hasn't already been said on both sides of the fence. Just my humble opinion, but there are more productive threads to follow or create.

Ivan

[Colin Hawken]

I quite agree Ivan.