Smoking advice "Help Needed"

I am an ex smoker 54 years ,now off them for almost 5 years and i have too laugh at all the adds on tv about smoking . when you go out of your home onto the streets with all the deisel and petrol fumes . and they rant about second hand smoke its silly .I agree though the house is a lot cleaner after we stopped . so stop smoking in the house as a first way too stopping . I worked in a smoke filled bar and restaurant for 21 years in NYC after 10 years at sea .and also remember the doctors office with a large ash tray on his desk . there are many people I know who have had heart attacks and cancer whio never smoked ,is that through second hand smoke, I dont think so. when I see obese people turning up their noses at smokers , it makes me want to tell them too stop offending my vision .so you lads who are strugling with giving up the( fags ) thats cigarettes OK .keep it up you wont regret it. think of the $$$$$ saved .Nev.:cool:

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Originally Posted by Neville Roberts

I know who have had heart attacks and cancer whio never smoked ,is that through second hand smoke, I dont think so. :cool:

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Well Neville, unless you have been unfortunate enough to be closely involved (my post #251) then perhaps my judgement is clouded by the worldwide experts who told me my wifes cancer was caused by Passive Smoking, and believe me I didn't go to just one expert to try and get my wife's illness reversed. Guess I'd rather believe the experts than a doubting Thomas who has apparently been lucky, I hope you maintain your luck mate. The $$$$$$$$ thing is unimportant when you lose your most valued possession.

Rgds

Ivan

The entertainer Roy Castle died of Passive smoking from appearing in Night Clubs, etc. He was a life long Non Smoker.
My son is a Cancer expert, a Consultant Oncologist, He worked in the States in Seattle at the world famous Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Centre, he told me many years ago, in 1990. to keep off the ciggies and avoid areas where people smoke. as passive smoking is even more dangerous than the smoking.
Since then I have watched two close friends dying, screaming in a pain that cannot be controlled even with intraveinous Morphine.
If you get Lung Cancer , when you get the symptons it is already too late.
The choice is yours,

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Brian.

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Originally Posted by Captain Kong

If you get Lung Cancer , when you get the symptons it is already too late.
The choice is yours,

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Brian.

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Thanks for cheering everybody up Brian!

Brgds

Bill

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Originally Posted by happy daze john in oz

Graham, as you began this post some time ago I was wondering how things are going. Pulled all your hair out, bitten finger nails to the quick, put on weight, climbed up walls. Besides all of that hwo is it now?

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Hi John, thanks for asking,
still going "just" :eek:
the main problem I have is that I have gone from 9st 7lbs to 11 bloody stone ( all in 6 months ) and no prizes as to where this excess weight has gone, straight to my belly, had to buy all new trousers was 32 inch now 34 inches and growing :mad:, thank god for elasticated waist bands on trousers.

About time you put some weight on Graham,
I am 16 stones now, Dont smoke any more and in 12 months have lost 19 pounds. Last year I was 17 stone five pounds Lots of good exercise.
Happy eating,
Cheers
Brian.

I to packed on the fat when I gave up years ago and still struggling to keep it down to a level I am happy with. Understand that there are a lot of people who have had and are having problems because of lax laws years ago concerning passive smoking but it got me to thinking that as a kid in the fifties how we used to go to school and not being able to see your hand in front of you because of the smog. Now if I was not inhaling what would amount to fifty fags in such a short time. Can still remember how so many people would be coughing and spluttering then as well. Giving up the fags is bad enough without so many using the guilt tag to denigrate those that are trying. I found that when ever I tried to give it up and people started to go on about how better of I would be had the opposite affect. As I have said in the past I never gave the fags up I just decided to see how long I could go before I had the next one so had every intention of having another one except that it has been about two decades in the waiting and now I can not recall where the bloody packet is any more. Of course I have sympathy for those that have suffered from passive smoking and would not dispute it but lets face it we where breathing in more sh8t than just smoke years ago and still do if only we knew what it was. Still maintain that there are those that have different systems that it attacks and those that it does not attack. As an aside here in our area you are allowed to eat and smoke in open air areas and clubs have smoking areas as well as poker machine rooms for smokers. Do admit that I do not like the smell of smokers but that is a personal view and would not force those that smoke to quit just to please me. I to have lost close ones to cancer but will not use the sympathy card either.

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Originally Posted by Les Woodard

I to have lost close ones to cancer but will not use the sympathy card either.

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Les I do hope that was not a dig at me, because I never asked for anyones sympathy, if people want to smoke then let them, it's their life. I was relating a personal experience of smoke and smoking and if you read my posts not advocating outright bans anywhere, as each person has to choose their own destiny though even by doing so it may have detrimental effects on others, but that is for their conscience alone.

Ivan

Hi Jim,I packed up smoking 1967,when on strike on the docks the fifth week of six week strike,brother Alex was in the Cunard ships always brought me 200cigs home each trip.My dad was a heavy smoker died of lung cancer did he suffer.two brothers and the sister same.I was Elven stone,now forteen stone musel.Will Power his the name of it.Ken.

Lets not forget all the other polution that we are exposed too every day , if you are around my age you will remember all the chimneys spewing out coal smoke especialy in the winter ,made Liverpool look like it was fogged in . its an easy way out too blame one thing for all the lung ailments .and if I ever get lung cancer and cant stand the pain I will just end it .one shot and its all over .our family never had a long life span all gone in thier 60 and early 70.s except for my Dad lasted till eighty but was sick for the last 4 years . I seem too be doing ok , maybe its all the running and on my feet 10 hours a day in smokey restaurants for 40 years .cough cough .gorra go now and do my 5 mile bike ride every day .tatar der ar kids .Nev.:cool: