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    Ref the slight deviation from the Clyde puffers, chufters geordies And scousers were mentioned. However I spent the most of the war years with very short sojourns outside to Scotland .I know a true cockney is supposed to be born within the sound of Bow Bells . But what is the term derived from. A cockerel or what ?? JS.
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    It is thought that the word Cockney originates from the Norman word for a sugar cake, cocaigne. The Normans called London the 'Land of Sugar Cake' and the name seems to have stuck with some variations over the years. In the 1360s the writer William Langland also used the term 'cockeney' to mean cock's egg.

    “cocks' egg” (i.e., a small or defective egg, imagined to come from a rooster—which, of course, cannot produce eggs).

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    Added: born within earshot of the bells of St Mary-le-Bow church in what is now the City of London. However, technically speaking there can be no cockneys born after 1945 since the bells were destroyed by German bombs during WWII.

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    There are those who claim to be true Londoners who will tell you that the only real ones come from the East End of London.

    Now they claim to be from London no matter what part they were born in.
    But those who were the early true Londoners no longer live in the East end, that like many other parts ahs been taken over by other ethnic groups.
    Many moved to the other side of the river, so much ahs changed.

    We lived in Maida Vale for some years, a very nice part about 1.5 miles from Marble Arch.
    Edgeware Road was the main road there and was a mixture of many white groups.

    Now more like Mandalay to Marakesh and all that are there now are Lebanese.
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    #3, Too true Blue! I can board the #36 at Paddington travel through to Dulwich and pass through 7 different countries all without a passport

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    Nothing to do with where you come from but the present mayor of London is leading a commission looking into the possible removal of some of the cities statues and renaming some of its streets. WTF.
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    #5, I bet they wont be Anglo Saxon/Caucasian names, possibilities on a postcard please

    George Floyd Road,
    " " Avenue
    " " Close
    " " Park
    " " Square

    But then perhaps not as Floyd is not your average African name is it.

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    Ivan, I was born in Dulwich hospital a few years ago. The morning of my birth some bloody Gerry dropped a bomb on the local station.

    AS to the statues.
    You may remove them, put them in a museum, drop them in the river, but you will never change history.
    What ever those people did they did and removing their statue will not remove their acts.

    Better you leave them where they are but put some form of notice as to why they are there.
    That way maybe, just may be you will be able to educate some of the drop kicks that want to cause problems and love the occasional riot to get their point across.
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    John
    they love the riots as they enable them to loot all the TV & music shops.
    I'm sure that's what the protests are about.
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    A lot of the money that guy made from slavery was ploughed back into various beneficial facilities for Bristol, so they may have been using those facilities without knowledge of who provided them.
    I wonder if they stop using them now, on principle?

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    In the Albert Dock in Liverpool there is a Museum of Slavery which contains some very disturbing images. Walk about a mile, near the Town Hall and find Exchange Flags, where, slave trading was conducted, the buying and selling of human flesh, mainly for the domestic market, servants and other menials. Set in the concrete are the ring bolts used to tether the chains of these people. These unfortunates were usually the perks of the Captain's commanding the slave ships who had opportunities to select those who would fetch a good price at auction.
    I mention the above to perhaps illustrate that not all who demonstrate will resort to the vandalism seen recently. No hordes of protesters have ripped up the concrete in Exchange Flags or barricaded themselves in the Slavery museum.
    As most aboard here who have visited this port will have found very little in the way of racism, be they seafarers or landsmen. Mind you, I wouldn't ask certain Scousers of any ethnicity to offer to mind my car while in the pub.
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