Climate Change

[happy daze john in oz]

Weather Report*
The Washington Post

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the*seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday*from Consulafft, at Bergen, Norway.*

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate*conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone.**
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Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.*
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Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well*known glaciers have entirely disappeared.**

Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old*seal fishing grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.*
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I'm sorry, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922,as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post…

…nearly 97 years ago!**

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[vic mcclymont]

We all have seen scenes of large Berg's breaking free from the Antarctic ice Shelf.
As usual, some groups report that the sea levels will rise by x metres.
one group of scientists have stated the icebergs breaking free will not cause dramatic increases in the sea levels.
Another group of scientists believe and have research to prove it, that some of the Berg's breaking free, started to break to break off in the 17 the Century.
Vic

[Captain Kong]

When I was in the Antarctic for two months in 2009, the BAS Team I met said there no melting ice. temp was as far down as 70 below.
I then went through the caldera of a volcano on Desolation Island, and the sea in there was very hot, we all went swimming, surrounded by Ice. a strange experience.
The Antarctic has several large Volcanoes,

Where the Gulf Stream starts there is a lot of Volcanic activity on the sea bed, and that can heat up the Gulf Stream which goes North around the Arctic Circle, so this does have an effect on temps.

[Ivan Cloherty]

Just a thought, we get a lot of pontificating under the guise of lectures, or as they prefer, informed opinions, from politicians, celebrities (whatever they may be!) and the likes of documentary makers etc etc ad infinitum. I wonder if the likes of Sir David Attenborough has ever stopped and calculated the size of his (and his crew's) carbon footprint, or what diseases he and his large supporting crew have introduced into once pristine and unexplored areas.

[happy daze john in oz]

Ivan mate, a very poingnat question.

On our TV last night under the commercial section a spokesman for one of the companies involved in wind farming.

He spoke of the need to take further action to increase the amount of renewable energy from wind and solar.
All very noble until he got down to the facts.

The opportunity for money to be made by investing in these ventures, benefit for shareholders to increase their in dividends in such ventures.

His whole approach was not about the change in climate, rather the benefits of the economic climate in participating in renewables.

The deeper one goes into the whole matter of climate change the more conflicting the stories and the level of hypocracy involved by so many.

[john middleton]

I don't suppose many will agree with me, but
the climate has been changing for ages, remember
the ice age?, god forbid to count the 'carbon footprint'
during the war. I am prepared to admit there is
a change but not warranting the mass hysteria.

[Captain Kong]

Well the leaves on the trees surrounding my garden are turning brown and some are starting to fall.,
So I guess it is now Autumn. it has been at exactly the same time every year for the last 57 years i have lived here. So not a lot of change, if any.
The Daffodils have not started blooming yet. maybe after November.

[happy daze john in oz]

John #263, somehow I doubt many of those who proclaim climate change even know what a climate is.
I had a discussion with a 'Green' at the last feral erection here and it was obvious she did not have a clue.
Could not explain difference between Temperate and Tropical.

Temperate, periods of heat and cold, wet and dry. Large differences in temperature and length of days during season change

Tropical, a wet season and a dry season, very little change in temperature or length of days. Very little, if any, seasonal change.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Well the leaves on the trees surrounding my garden are turning brown and some are starting to fall.,
So I guess it is now Autumn. it has been at exactly the same time every year for the last 57 years i have lived here. So not a lot of change, if any.
The Daffodils have not started blooming yet. maybe after November.

Even here planting time for daffs is more like now'ish: September and October

Flowering time: Typically February to early May.

K.

[Rodney Mills]

John re.262.

I have told the story of my honorable adopted son and very dear friend from Saxony, Germany who built and owns 3 modern windmills. Sure he never built them out of concern for the worlds climate.

Though disturbed about lead in house paint in the family home (he lived in East German then and found out about such things when the wall came down) plus smoggy air from factories burning high sulfur coal, but he was a poor young man trapped in a communist environment dreaming of being a capitalist.

He spent years filling in over 25 feet of 3'' binders of application for permits and was finally successful and awarded the final permits.

News hit the renewable industry and he was offered over$2 million to sigh over his permits. He thought about it and figured if they would pay that much then he she do it himself.

He borrowed on the strength of the permits $20million dollars and I was the first one he called and told that he got the loan and was $20 million in dept.

My wife and I have been up to the top of one of them, unbelievable experience.

He has rebuilt his parents long time family home, he financially supports the village school sports program and other local charitable programs and he is enjoying the fruits of his hard work and financial risk he undertook.

He has just returned from a family vacation in Mauritius.

He is deeply concerned over my wife's illness, plus my heart condition prior to my new valve, and the fact that we have sold our house and are moving into an apartment. He phones me every Sunday to check-up and keeps asking if he can come over and help with the packing and moving. Of course I say no as only my pint size Fuhrer (my wife) knows where everything goes or will go.

So I have to do the packing and lifting. But he is so frustrated that he cannot help us. More so than my own children.

I told him when he first built them to stash away somewhere safe, money that will never be at risk and easy available. I call it my f-u money. If it goes to my kids and wife's niece when we croak, so be it, but if we have to go into a retirement home we can and will never be broke or destitute.

In his case I say stash away your basic million f-u money, safe, no risk and liquid, and the rest of your life you are grinning. He said he would and periodically he gives me a projected date and he's getting close.

He did the work, took the financial risk, and is reaping the rewards as well as helping others, good bloody luck to him I say, and if his business helps the environment so be it.

Cheers, Rodney