G'day Alf, think you may be corrcet about that cafe. But you must have known a mate of mine who had been in the army M.P. Never bought a new car tyre in his life, Find a new car and chnage his spare for one of the new cars. It was a lot easier back then in the 60's than today as most of the newer models have locking nuts. Just cant have any fun any more.:eek: