Crewing problems

[John Arton]

In order to man the new type 26? Vessels being built, the royal navy have had to decommission three present in service vessels.
Seems like many of our armed forces are struggling to recruit sufficient staff. Adverts for all 3 services are regularly shown on the t.v
Are the young of today a bit reluctant to experience discipline that is part and parcel of serving in the armed forces.
Rgds
J.A

[Des Taff Jenkins]

John.
The Australian Govt has just offered soldiers with two years service around $17,000 to resign and people with four years service $50 thousand to do the same. They may try to start a war but will not ave the people so daft to jump in next time.
DEs

[Doc Vernon]

Des
I think that you may have heard things wrong, but i stand corrected!
I heard that they are offering $50 Grand for Service Personel to stay on, as an incentive to keep the Numbers! Also offering more Pay for initial Recruits .
Cheers

ADF members promised $400m for retention bonuses (thenewdaily.com.au)

[Doug Hardie]

I would jump at that kind of Dosh to stay afloat , but I fear my eyesight would not be able to spot the golden rivet HaHa!
Doug

[James Curry]

Perhaps if , certainly in the UK we did more to look after ex service personal more young ones consider a career in the Forces.
Every time there is a budget one of the first targets by the chancellor is Defence.
When service personal reach their shelf life and let go, do the forces prepare them for life on civvy street? Or is it a case thank you for your service there is the door , good luck.
Is there anyone like say a careers officer for those moving on?
Surely an Ideal roll for ex military personnel would be the police or those trained as medics in the services paramedics , Ambulance drivers. They are used to a life of disipline and one would think an ideal fit. Perhaps those measures are already in place?

[John Arton]

Watching the news today a rear admiral, just how many of those do we have?, stated that the 3 decommissioned ships were, in his words, clapped out, a very nautical term eh!
Rgds
J.A

[Doug Hardie]

If the type 23 frigate is clapped out as rear Admiral Perry states ,we should sell them to some other Nation as would normally happen ! Ops that would only work if the same Admirals and senior brass had advised the dilly civil servants and Government Ministers of the the real consequences of not having any ships due to the Labour & conservative governments curbing the Build programme and spending the pitiful budget on 2 aircraft carriers which are not fit for purpose because of the lack of aircraft to fly off them.
The Government say that’s because warfare has changed . The same naval ,air and land staff are paid to predict resource and staffing levels in line with a robust defence policy.Where did it all go wrong and why!
Doug

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Doug.
I think there are still lingering problems with the Iraq war, these days the politicians may be a bit more cautious about jumping in, they wet their toes first.
Des

[j.sabourn]

#6 John re query how many rear admirals do we have today ?. My understanding of Admiral ranking was Admiral of the fleet who in bygone days led the fleet in the forefront , the Vice Admiral somewhere on either flank to jump in if the Admiral got knocked out, and the Rear Admiral bringing up the rear to jump in to replace either. Today does the RN have a fleet.? By what most see is that any such fleet scraped together would be down by the head with Admirals but not enough ships or seamen for that matter. The usual saying too many chiefs and not enough Indians. This applies also in the business world. Everyone these days seems to want workers , they however have to be at the right price. In the case of the navy some of those Admirals should or could be employed lucratively elsewhere. JS

[happy daze john in oz]

Appears to be not just a UK problem.
We have similar here and with police also.
No one wants to join up, too much like hard work and the pay is not so good.
But our Navy is no so big or the Air Force.
Then again square bashing would do good for some of the no hopper we have.