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    National Memorial Arboretum

    The turf has been cut ahead of the creation of a new memorial to submariners at the National Memorial Arboretum. The ceremony was attended by the Deputy Lieutenant of Staffordshire, Simon Clarke, and representatives from the Submariner Memorial Appeal.

    The Submariner Memorial, designed by sculptor Paul Day following an international design competition, will remember and recognise the 5,000 submariners who lost their lives while serving in the years before, between and during the two World Wars, and the 450 who have died since.

    The 4-metre-long Memorial will be in the form of a submarine fin, cast in bronze. At the centre will be a lone figure looking up to the surface - a submariner who represents all those who have risked and sometimes lost their lives in service.

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    The Memorial will also feature Sir Winston Churchill’s quote: “Of all the branches of men in the Forces there is none which shows more devotion and faces grimmer perils than the submariner.”

    On hand to cut the turf were 100-year-old Diana Mayes and HMS Vigilant's Chef Jack McHugh. Diana's first husband was Lt Gordon Noll, CO of HMS Untamed, which was lost with all hands in the Clyde in May 1943.
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    Funny you should mention that today , as this morning met a member of another group I know and a member of an associate group. 0f a person celebrating 50 years since he joined the RN he is an ex Lt/Commdr out of submarines. Going back 50 years that makes him joining the RN in 1971 well after a lot of us started out , but no doubt he will have some more modern ideas about underwater warfare, and as will be in his company for a few hours every month should be interesting to hear about . Cheers JS
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    Hi John S. You may know of this one from your days with the R.N. at Fort William. On the north side of the bridge over Kylesku in the car park is a memorial to the submariners of the X Craft & Human Torpedo's. They trained in the sea lochs in a very remote area back then.
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    Funny isn't it how we pay respect to our services, we get a replica of a Fin(Sail in USNavy) and a W/t Door, yet HMS 'Otus' Oberon Class, largest non nuclear submarine, is now a museum in Germany. Just an observation. The Americans rescued and preserved our finest liner, The Germans have floating museum of a cargo ship, as do the Dutch who also have the liner 'Rotterdam' The USA of course has the 'Liberty' ship, as do the Greeks, even though the Liberty was a derivative of the Sunderland Empire 1937 design, in fact she was called the 'Empire Liberty' but our Govt's didn't deem it necessary to preserve much for our heritage of the sacrifices made by so many. Seems they forget we are an island nation.

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    https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/leadi...es-magennis-vc Note that there is no mention of the hardships this hero had to endure in his home town.
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    This brave man was not recognised as a hero in his native Belfast until many many years after his amazing acts of bravery. He was shunned by his own and ignored by the so called Unionists. Thankfully this wrong has now been put to rights.

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    #3.. Bill my memories of Fort William are going ashore in the ships launch which was supposedly capable of over 30 knots and planeing I never saw it plane at anytime however. ThinkI was going ashore for stores and fresh milk.
    However on tying up and going ashore I bumped into 2 old divers off the Clansman and got coerced into going for a drink with them , they had been reassigned to the diving depot up there which had the chambers etc etc etc. They had the RN paddy wagon with bomb disposal written on the side , don’t know to this day how many pubs in Fort William but am sure we visited most of them .After the first one in transit to the next they put the siren on ,so we never saw a policeman. I can’t remember if ever got the fresh milk . Cheers JS
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    #4 there is this one in Birkenhead U534.jpg, U534 1.jpg U534. There was an what was known as the Historic warships preservation trust based in Birkenhead. It closed in 2006 because of financial difficulties and also because of objections raised by developers of a ware house conversation into luxury flats. Says it all really about how the British public feel about our maritime history. The U Boat is still there but has been cut into sections, to be honest it was better before they decided to try and make it more user friendly.

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    It is not the public, there are many that either knock all or pay lip service,
    The likes of the City of Adelaide coming back to Scotland, ended with it
    going down under and it has been red tape with the Falls of Clyde.

    Current news re: Falls of Clyde.

    I am delighted to advise that following on from our online meeting with the DOT Committee discussing our recent RFP bid, that we have today submitted out final amended bid, giving additional detail as requested by that committee. Many thanks to Peter Pilonne, Shane Prather, David Lee and Neil Takekawa, for all of their cooperation during this process.

    As part of the RFP process as a bidder we were also required to reach out to USCG, EPA, State Historic Preservation-Hawaii, NPS and DNLR, to seek their consent for our proposal and methodology within our response, to safely remove the Falls of Clyde from Honolulu harbor.

    I can confirm that the EPA have already confirmed their support and approval for this plan. We are now waiting on the other departments responding and are hopeful that their response will be the same.

    Now we await the decision from DOT Harbors!

    Save Falls of Clyde - International


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    To be honest I have never heard of the Falls of Clyde until I read about it on here. Hands up and in all honesty how many members have?
    I think if we had a vote on here a majority would vote for leaving the Falls of Clyde were it is and vote to see a classic British MN midship 5 hatch cargo Liner/Tramp preserved in any British port, the likes of Liverpool for instance. Will not happen as they are all well gone and shame on those companies for not wanting or willing to preserve such a vessel. Not only for British maritime history but to the memory of those who sailed the world, office staff who found the cargos and those who maintained and repaired such vessels in dry dock etc!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis McColl View Post
    To be honest I have never heard of the Falls of Clyde until I read about it on here. Hands up and in all honesty how many members have?
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    You mean apart from the Scottish members.:
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