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8th April 2018, 03:27 AM
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Re: Navy is now down to five ships.
Lets be honest, the western world relies on the United States for its equality in Shipping in the case of hostilities. Like the last world war it was the backing of the US that saved Australia from invasion, and the same applies today. While other countries have let their defences go belly up to save on money. Which was always going to be a false economy , the US has been left holding the baby. Trump is only speaking the truth when he demands that other countries should pay more appropriately into the kitty. The past is the past where The US took. A leading roll in world politics. People decry Trump For what he represents it’s a pity there weren’t a few more like minded patriotic politicians in the western world. God help Australia if the leader of the opposition ever gets in here as his insulting remarks before Trump was elected will probably be well remembered. JWS
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8th April 2018, 08:55 AM
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Re: Navy is now down to five ships.
Why should they lift a finger if Argentina decided to have ago at taking the Falklands again. The UK are the ones that gave the EU the finger.
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8th April 2018, 09:39 AM
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Re: Navy is now down to five ships.
Well Lewis, we were members of the exclusive club of wasters when the Falklands was attacked before and not one of our so called allies lifted a finger to help.
Vic
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8th April 2018, 10:06 AM
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Re: Navy is now down to five ships.
Originally Posted by
Lewis McColl
Why should they lift a finger if Argentina decided to have ago at taking the Falklands again. The UK are the ones that gave the EU the finger.
Something to do with NATO methinks, where-in if one member (or their Dependencies) is attacked the other members are supposed to rally round, but don't hold your breath. It has nothing to do with whether or not we are part of the EU
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8th April 2018, 10:07 AM
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Re: Navy is now down to five ships.
So the French did not stop selling and supplying Exocet missiles? Francois Mitterrand, had come to Britain's aid by declaring an embargo on French arms sales and assistance to Argentina. Or allow the RN and British forces to use West African ports en route to the Falklands.
As I said why should the EU now bother to come to the aid of the UK we want out so out we will go, but don't moan about it when the EU tells the UK you made your bed lie in it.
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8th April 2018, 10:13 AM
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Re: Navy is now down to five ships.
Lewis, a team from Dessault fixed the firing mechanism on the Argentinian planes.
France refused to stop selling the missiles to Argentina. yes, the French assisted but a usual played both sides.
Belguim also refused to supply us with bullets and ammo.
The Americans supplied us with latest hardware and nformation.
The EU will crumble in a few years and will cause a hell of a lot of problems.
Vic
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8th April 2018, 10:17 AM
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Re: Navy is now down to five ships.
Originally Posted by
vic mcclymont
Lewis, a team from Dessault fixed the firing mechanism on the Argentinian planes.
France refused to stop selling the missiles to Argentina. yes, the French assisted but a usual played both sides.
Belguim also refused to supply us with bullets and ammo.
The Americans supplied us with latest hardware and nformation.
The EU will crumble in a few years and will cause a hell of a lot of problems.
Vic
How France helped both sides in the Falklands War - BBC News
Yes Vic they did , but not the official line as far as the French government were concerned.
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8th April 2018, 10:24 AM
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Re: Navy is now down to five ships.
Originally Posted by
Ivan Cloherty
Something to do with NATO methinks, where-in if one member (or their Dependencies) is attacked the other members are supposed to rally round, but don't hold your breath. It has nothing to do with whether or not we are part of the EU
I would not be holding my breath either Ivan if you think that NATO would get involved in a Falklands conflict, NATO is toothless without the Americans. The rest of the EU as I say will tell the UK your problem you deal with it, and the simple fact is the armed forces have been stripped to the bare bones and I would be very surprised if we could or would want to deal with it again.
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8th April 2018, 10:24 AM
#29
Re: Navy is now down to five ships.
the French technicians provided support to Argentina throughout including repairs to Exocet missile launchers as admitted by Herve Colin of Dassult , I bet a lot of widows hurt from that co-operatuion
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 )
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8th April 2018, 10:27 AM
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Re: Navy is now down to five ships.
Lewis, read that, the Guardian reports UK ministers hatched a plan to hijack further missile being shipped by Dessault, which was 51% state owned.
The missiles were being shipped by a torturous route to Argentina.
Vic
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