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    REMEMBERING THE PILOTS OF THE BATTLE OF BRITAIN

    From July to October 1940, much of the fighting during World War Two in Western Europe was concentrated in the skies above the channel and the south of England, pitting the might of the German Luftwaffe against the pilots of the RAF.

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    "Our veterans did not forget about us .... Let's not forget about them." From Michael Levesque

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    My late Uncle Trevor de Trafford MacDonald , Wing Commander being one of such!
    We will Remember then All. (My Fathers youngest Brother)
    Thank You

    And in the First World War also remembering all those in the RAF.
    With another in the Family my Great Uncle, Fighter Pilot (Ace) Hector Omdurman MacDonald.

    Reference: WO 339/112820
    Description: Lieutenant Hector Omdurman McDONALD
    Royal Air Force.
    Date: [1914-1922]
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Former reference in its original department: 212675
    Legal status: Public Record(s)


    Transcript of H. O.'s record
    First name(s) H. O.
    Last name Macdonald
    Year 1917
    Rank Lieutenant
    Regiment Royal Air Force
    Service Royal Air Force
    Date missing 29/07/1917
    Prison camp or ship -
    Section WESTERN THEATRE OF OPERATIONS.
    Repatriated 16/01/1919
    Conflict World War 1
    Country Great Britain
    Series -
    Record set Prisoners Of War 1715-1945
    Category Military, armed forces & conflict
    Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
    Collections from Great Britain, UK None

    As above does not show POW Camp where held, can anyone tell me how i could find out!
    I have it on his record that shows Hull ?? But that to me sounds not correct at all?
    Thank you for any pointers!
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    #2, All I could find Doc, from FMP:

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    First name(s) Hector Omdurman
    Service number 68663
    Last name Macdonald
    Archive reference AIR 79/634
    Birth year 1899
    Next of kin first name(s) -
    Birth date ? ? 1899
    Next of kin last name Macdonald
    Occupation Student
    Record set British Royal Air Force, Airmen's Service Records 1912-1939
    Attestation year 1917
    Category Military, armed forces & conflict
    Attestation date 28 Mar 1917
    Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
    Attestation age 18
    Collections from Great Britain, UK None

    Transcript of Hector Omdurman's record

    First name(s) Hector Omdurman
    Grave reference Grave 55.
    Last name Macdonald
    Cemetery or Memorial Takoradi European Public Cemetery
    Birth year -
    Burial country Ghana
    Age - 44
    Link https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead
    Death year 1943
    War Second World War, 1939-1945
    Death date 02 Dec 1943
    Record set Commonwealth War Graves Commission Debt Of Honour
    Number 203267V
    Category Military, armed forces & conflict
    Rank Captain
    Subcategory Second World War
    Unit 26 Sqdn.
    Collections from Great Britain, UK None
    Regiment South African Air Force

    First name(s) Hector Omdurman
    Death date 02 Dec 1943
    Last name Macdonald
    Country Ghana
    Service number 203267V
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    Rank Captain
    Original source Commonwealth War Graves Commission Debt Of Honour
    Regiment South African Air Force
    Record set World War 2 Allies Collection
    Unit or regiment 26 Sqdn.
    Category Military, armed forces & conflict
    Year 1943
    Subcategory Second World War
    Death year 1943
    Collections from Americas, Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, UK None

    Two of the records above re Hector's death/grave are available on Ancestry too - slightly different format. Same details.

    Not sure about this one Doc as there are no SV No's to confirm and all the other documents have Hector's name in full. There are over 3,000 Hector Mac Donalds alone Enclose anyway for you to decide for yourself from FMP:

    First name(s) H. O.
    Repatriated 16/01/1919
    Last name Macdonald
    Conflict World War 1
    Year 1917
    Country Great Britain
    Rank Lieutenant
    Series -
    Regiment Royal Air Force
    Record set Prisoners Of War 1715-1945
    Service Royal Air Force
    Category Military, armed forces & conflict
    Date missing 29/07/1917
    Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
    Prison camp or ship -
    Collections from Great Britain, UK None
    Section WESTERN THEATRE OF OPERATIONS.
    Last edited by Marian Gray; 11th September 2021 at 03:07 AM. Reason: Added text

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    Hello Marian
    Thank you for these Docs , and funnily enough i had Downloaded them just after i had posted as i found them in the NA and the Files were free to Members! The last one you show there is the one that is for sure him! The first three Docs are his as well. The fourth one in Colour is not him!

    Still dont know the Camp name though and the baffle of Hull ??
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    Doc, could that be were he was repatriated to from POW camp Hull UK, just a thought. Den

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    Hello Denis
    I think you may be correct there, as i have done some research and there is mention of POW.s being sent back to Britain from Various Camps , just that i wonder why they would have done that ?
    But i am still researching into this Denis!
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    Sorry Marian
    All those Docs and other do actually refer to him! Great stuff!
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    #6 I may be jumping the gun here and picking up at the wrong place , but if it is concerning p.o.w.s being returned during the war then I can confirm this is correct. As my father was part of a group designated to accompany German POWs for exchange for British POWs . Forget the name of ship and the exchange would have been done somewhere in the Baltic region. Was about the only thing my father ever talked about re his wartime service.Primary because among the exchange was an escaping British POW they hid on the ship. However a German U- boat surfaced alongside them in the Skagerrak and forced them to hand him back. This’s would of been about 1943. JS
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    Hi JS
    Yes on some reading i have done , it seems that POW,s of WW1 were sent back to UK various places, my Great Uncle being one to go to Hull.
    So at least i now know what happened to an extent! However the thing that remains to be solved is which Camp he was actually sent from ? I would at a wild guess say it was somewhere in Germany, but there were many Camps there! There are Records i have seen at the NA Kew, online that refer to various places but to go through all the Files would take me a lifetime there are Thousands!

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    Funny enough when I worked for John. I Jacobs , he used sometimes to visit the ships also. We were chatting one day and it came out that he had been an allied soldier during the war had been captured and imprisoned in Poland in a POW camp.They never found out he was a Jew and we both had a laugh at how easy it would have been to find out. However he wouldn’t have been laughing if they had. Was a great bloke and saw the funny as well as the serious parts of life , and could laugh at himself which most people can’t . JS.
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